The Secret Sun on THC



It's been nearly a month since Greg Carlwood and I tore into it for three hours, covering all kinds of ground and any number of different topics. Happily, Greg was able to make some sense of it all and banged it all into a fairly-coherent 2 1/2 hour chat.

There's a big swath of it on Free THC that you can download here (grok the copious show notes) and there's even more to be had on THC+.

We talked a lot about the election but also talked a lot about Bell Labs, the Roswell Ritual and Lucifer's Technologies, the Sumerian origin of the Prometheus/Lucifer archetype and the shadowy machinations of MK-OFTEN.

I hope you enjoy it. Share your feedback here, I'm interested to hear what you think.

16 comments:

  1. Loved this. Got to go back for another listen, but I noticed in the THC comments that lots of people didn't appreciate you killing the sacred "Luciferian" cow!! I'm with you; people get the self proclamed "Brotherhood of Light" confused with Luciferian, in my book. Also, when you get into the shadowy stuff, I was reminded of Peter L's recent comment on Gordon's show; "It's not Angels vs. Demons. It's more like Alien vs. Predator." !! This pretty well sums up my feelings about the whole deal we find ourselves neck deep in this year.

    Your views on the testing of weapons on civilians, through media and other avenues is real food for thought, " at this point in the timeline..." when vermin is backed into a corner, as it seem our Great Leaders may be, they can go a bit off the wall.

    Thanks again for this one.

    H

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    1. It's not a declaration I make lightly. I've been studying this for a long time. The one Luciferian sect they can isolate from the Middle Ages turns out to be Satanic, and from that point you have basically nothing until very fairly recently. People talk about Alice Bailey but don't want to talk about how she viewed Lucifer as the "Planetary Throat Center." Um, yeah, thanks Alice.

      As to testing on civilians and children, it's real and it's ongoing. Look at this entire situation with Fentanil- where did it all come from? Why is there so much of it on the street? Who is selling it and who are they targeting and why?

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  2. Pretty synchromystic that you guys did this on 11/11 (Remembrance Day in my part of the world, Australia) the day 'Arrival' is released at the cinema.
    I'm only at the 17 minute mark now...but I'm hooked.

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    1. Excellent- I'm glad you're enjoying it. Cheers, D.

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  3. Dear Chris- Fantastic interview. An eerie calm indeed. And thank you for turning me on to Greg in the first place. I signed right up and between Greg and Gordon I have two great interviews a week that I can count on to make me think. And both are so cogent in their questions and replies to their guests. I love to hear you speak as well. I wish I still had a decent internet only because of the Sun and the friends who share their hearts and intellects here. Love and best vibes from Delorus.

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    1. So awesome to hear from you, Delorus! I can only hope to approach Gordon's podcast-mastery so I appreciate being mentioned in the same breath. Don't be a stranger, y'hear?

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  4. Hi Chris,

    Always great to hear you speak as well as write, when you have the opportunity. Caught the THC show this morning and it was really helpful to hear you unwind the Lucifer/Prometheus connections and tie it back to the Sumerian narrative. Also, the parts of the discussion about Cadmus and Lucent was very insightful and helped bring together, for me, much of what I have read previously on your blog. Thanks for taking the time to do that show and give us another way to assimilate that information by hearing it, as well. These events that are going on around us seem to be getting clearer the more we question them and try to go down those "side streets" you alluded to in the show to find the root causes. Thank you and Greg for making that happen.

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    1. My pleasure. This was an important program for me because it gave me the opportunity to field-test some ideas I've been working with all year and I'm happy so far with the results. The next step is to take all of the material I've gathered and bang it all into shape in book form. It really demands it and I've finally stumbled on the topics that motivate me enough to get back in the game.

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  5. Awesome interview that bears repeated listening. "The road less traveled" indeed.

    Lately I've been been reading Zecharia Sitchin's "There Were Giants Upon the Earth", lots of relevant bits in the interview that helped further deepen some of Sitchin's research. I don't think he got everything right, but some of what he expounds on like Elias Ashmole's mysterious Sumerian finds & interest in all things antediluvian is fascinating to me. Ashmole of course was a practicing alchemist & occultist, possibly the first recorded speculative Freemason, founder of the British Royal Society & a respected astronomer with lots of connections. But its his archaeological work that I'm most intrigued by. No one properly began archaeological digs in Sumer until the 1850s, but those Europeans "in the know" were apparently visiting the site as early as the 1600s. Numerous artifacts were in circulation to interested buyers ("curiosities"), & powerful, connected people were seeking them out, then as now. Some things never change do they?

    BTW: Any chance of another book down the road? Maybe to help support your blog/research? Because I'd buy it in a heartbeat (& multiple copies to give as presents to those who'd appreciate it). Thanks for all the hard work that you do!

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    1. Well, like I said this is where I want to go with my return to publishing. And Sumer is still a fascinating case- we know now that there were no end of precursor civilizations but nothing on the scale and complexity and social organization that we saw there. The thing that gets to me here is the mystery surrounding this fire god that I discussed and the fact that the information we have on him fails to match the esteem paid to him in the texts. The Freemasons are entirely relevant here because he was- among other things- the god of brick makers and craftsmen. So how weird do we want to get here? Sitchin is often silent on this kind of speculation, which to me might be telling. Bramley certainly wasn't. These are the mysteries I hope to get to the bottom of in my future book projects.

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  6. The Rose-well is surely one of the biggest revelations here. I thought immediately of Peter King's Lucifer book which GW mentions even in his latest TARL, no doubt connected somehow to your appearance on THC+ in the 'higher side' of this Earth. Loved the rose well. I think it's not just corner office foolery - this is proud and steadfast worship.

    I have a lot to say, but will revisit soon after listening to it in full once more -

    Interdimensional, not extraterrestrial, is where I place my chips and go to the mat at - but what really REALLY matters is the nature of the transistor, and it is EXTREMELY telling somehow I intuit that Pauli said no, but Crowley (et al, Bell, 9, Bush, et) said YES.

    and "god takes care of 'his' own"... all godforms do - until they eatcha! I mean, maybe.

    So two biggest points I want to suss are Rosewell as a substantial keyhole in to all of this high Osiris Rex strangeness and that it is a militaristic/governmental functionality which sees the transistor appear, I mean, gross-simplification - but the device itself, and CLK, I am 'seriously' on to something here but I cannot - I'm not at the phase of anything past 'Tiphareth' in terms of using tree of life as a manifestation metaphor - that is, it will be real 'on Malkuth' but I'm still connecting the dots - and even learning that crux points are ... things that have names - like today - I learned what a transistor was/is.

    Well, that is, I'm kinda hinting that - I learned what it does as a technical definition - a limited hangout of what it means...

    We never landed on the moon, I say - I take the ethereal bodies view of planets and the moon and even that earth is some sort of cosmic projection (DVD style kinda) like the Dark Side of the Moon album cover art - actually says a lot more -

    and there's tons THERE to discover - the dark side of the (story of the moon) is that we never went there - the darker side is what that falsity is being used to perpetuate - so - just am the one who said that, even if it sounds battier than a tight cowl, cape and crusade.

    To revisit/correspond an olde comment I made here - Now I kinda feel I know 'what in the technodrome is going on'.

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    1. Well, funny you should bring that up. We lost John Glenn today and the original Mercury/Gemini/Apollo astronauts won't be with us forever. I often think that maybe NASA will start to loosen the screws a bit and acknowledge the AVALANCHE of science calling so much of the photography from the Moon missions into question. Now, mind you, this merely casts doubt on the so-called documentation, there could well have been evidence we've never been shown. But the fact remains that the work down on say, stereoscopic parallax or other forms of analysis clearly show that something is rotten in Houston.

      But I will be continuing to explore the Rose-Well and the inexplicable "coincidences" that swarm around it like flies on crap. Was it a crashed saucer or a crashed Mogul balloon or an elaborate ritual? Time will tell.

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  7. I love listening to Greg's podcasts on THC, and this one was epic. Great stuff.

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  8. Superlative. Your discussion about naming as an ancient form of magical invocation reminded me of how when I worked for George Lucas, I learned that he named all nearly all of the characters in Star Wars and the Clone Wars. He certainly loves corny puns given names like Darth Vader (dark father), Yoda (yoga), Leia Organna (Orgone aka The Force?) and Bariss Offee (Barista coffee!). He even once named a minor character Takito, probably because he and his son had eaten taquitos from Jack in the Box that morning.

    But I also think he understood the power of naming to create archetypal resonances and so as to forge an incredibly successful modern myth. Otherwise he might have named the (d)jedi the Templari or something more on the nose but weighted with less mythic heft. George wasn't the auteur people have made him out to be--had a lot of help from very talented people. But he draw down something powerful from the imaginal realm and make it for a great many.

    So surely the main people behind the naming of NASA missions, Roswell rituals, and MK operations understand this power of naming when trying invoke new realities. But as you said, the zeitgeist (time spirit) has its own agenda.

    As I learned from observing George, the people conjuring new technologies and social trajectories may not have as much agency most assume. They are instruments of forces from elsewhere--whether we call it the imaginal, the collective unconscious, the mundus imaginalis, the unus mundus, the anima mundi, the Oversoul, or the Super Natural.

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    1. One thing I've learned is that if you've ever thought of something, "they" have already. We're sort of retracing steps already taken. And so much is hiding in plain sight. We're learning that this year more than we would probably prefer to. It often seems like the covert symbolic war has now broken out into the open and part of the engagement is about setting the terms and rules of battle. It's a shocking state of affairs for those of us who've been following all this for several years now.

      Strange, dark, unsettling times we live in.

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