AstroGnostic: You'll Be Godlike. Or Not.



Fueled by technology, powerful forces are smashing America-- and in fact, the world-- to hell all in the name of the new religious dogma of "disruption". Nothing is safe- your job, your home, your family, your community, your future.

Not even reality itself, it seems.


What's truly frightening is how delusional our new overlords seem to be, even when it comes to the things they should know about best.

"Uploading", popularized by Cyberpunk guru William Gibson in the 1980s but dating back to The Outer Limits and further back still, is a bedrock tenet of the new technofaith, even though we're nowhere near up to pulling it off.  And that's assuming that you could program consciousness in the first place, a prospect for which no evidence yet exists.


How far away are we from uploading? They're still working on mapping -- mapping, mind you-- the brains of houseflies. The amount of computing power- and raw energy- it would take to program a single human persona staggers the imagination (in much the same way a trip through the vast reaches of space between stars does, ironically).

But an extreme strand of materialism has infected the new robber barons with an overwhelming terror of death, which itself seems fueled by a new strain of myopic solipsism: 
“The merge has begun—and a merge is our best scenario. Any version without a merge will have conflict: we enslave the A.I. or it enslaves us. The full-on-crazy version of the merge is we get our brains uploaded into the cloud. I’d love that,”
What's at stake in all of this? Why nothing less than the fate of consciousness in the universe, bro: 
“We need to level up humans, because our descendants will either conquer the galaxy or extinguish consciousness in the universe forever."
Dude.

Where do you even begin with this kind of narcissistic solipsism? Where's it coming from? We've barely begun to poke our noses outside our solar system (and still have no way of actually testing our methodology) and yet these people have unilaterally decided that consciousness exists nowhere else? 

Well, I'll tell you where this is all coming from; it's coming from the closed island environment of TED Talks, exclusive Burning Man tents and Think Big Festivals, where the overpaid pashas of the Valley genuflect before newly-minted religious dogma like this:
According to the Sunday Times, Cox believes that any alien civilisation is destined to wipe itself out shortly after it evolves. 
“One solution to the Fermi paradox is that it is not possible to run a world that has the power to destroy itself and that needs global collaborative solutions to prevent that,” Cox said. 
The physicist explained that advances in science and technology would rapidly outstrip the development of institutions cable of keeping them under control, leading to the civilisation’s self-destruction: 
“It may be that the growth of science and engineering inevitably outstrips the development of political expertise, leading to disaster. We could be approaching that position.” 
Cox’s comments came ahead of the publication of his new book, Universal: A Guide to the Cosmos, written with his colleague Manchester University physicist Jeff Forshaw. 
The pair suggest that politicians should start thinking like scientists by grounding their views in evidence in order to tackle global challenges like climate change.
Climate change. Of course.

Can someone please inform Mr. Cox that astronomers barely understand our own solar system?* How do these people speak with such authority about planets trillions of miles away when they have yet to determine what's floating around outside the orbit of Pluto? 

This isn't science, this is dorm-room navel gazing, writ large.

What Cox is in fact doing here is sucking up to the archon class, and providing them with the existential justification for unilaterally breaking down our entire socioeconomic system and replacing it with an iron-fisted feudalism in which no middle class (long a thorn in the side of oligarchal rule-by-fiat) remains.

Because if we don't fight climate change there goes the entire universe, bro.


What is it Sam Kriss wrote again?

And something Luciferian persists in the techno-Gnostics of San Francisco. They have decided that our universe is the conscious creation of a higher power, and now they’re massing their armies to storm the gates of heaven and go to war with God. 
And like Goethe’s Mephistopheles, their doctrine is omnicidal. ‘All that exists deserves to perish.
And here's where we find ourselves back in Lucifer's Technologies territory, that in fact all that strange new technology some say we suddenly found one sultry summer morning in the New Mexico desert was in fact a Trojan Horse, lending us the bricks and mortar which to build ourselves an entirely new kind of prison for the human race.

Oh, come on, you say. That's just swivel-eyed tinfoil hat stuff. Low-grade conspiranoia foolishness, not worth even mocking.

Well, maybe so.

But one has to wonder, what would a world in which humanity were trapped- quarantined- on a prison planet in fact look like?

Maybe our spacecraft would be subject to constant monitoring and harassment. How's that sound? Maybe after 60 years of trying we'd be no closer to breaking Earth's orbit than we were when we started.

And maybe our most ambitious attempts to jailbreak Earth would be subject to devastating acts of sabotage:

Around 9am EST, the 604-ton rocket was being fueled with a concoction of liquid oxygen and rocket-grade kerosene propellant when the upper region burst into flames. 
The entire craft was engulfed in what seemed like seconds, including Facebook’s $200 million communication satellite that was specifically designed to bring internet to Africa. 
And although Falcon 9’s creators are baffled by the turn of events, a new theory has emerged that could provide answers. Since the explosion, YouTube videos have been surfacing that highlight a mysterious anomaly passing over Falcon 9 as it sits on the launch pad before, during and after the explosion, Daily Express reported. 
YouTuber Graphics King posted footage yesterday and slowed down the video to reveal a black object flying over the rocket at the moment it met its fate.
Does this smackdown in fact explain Musk's leap into the murky waters of techno-Sethianism? Is it in fact an escape from a far more troubling reality? Why the desperate push for Mars? What is that based on?

Maybe we don't want to know.


Either way, one thing remains true; all the money, fame and power in the world only amplifies one's anxieties. More than sometimes actually.

Though it's certainly hard to muster much (well, any) sympathy for the new robber baron class, given their unending, broad-spectrum assault on the American way of life, we can acknowledge that they may in fact be working from a more comprehensive data set that we are and that their anxieties may in fact be well-placed.


PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL

It certainly seems that the new earthside, small "a"- archons seem to hold all the (micro)chips right now, don't they? But if History teaches us anything it's a strange inversion of the "darkest before the dawn" notion when it comes to imperial power.

Empires seem to reach their zeniths right before it all comes crashing down. Spain, Portugal, Holland, Austria, Turkey- these were all the seats of mighty imperial projects, not so long ago. The British Empire was the largest colonizing force in human history, just a century past. 

The same holds true for conglomerates as well as countries, for bankers as well as bloodlines

Similarly, the new archons of the Valley might want to take a good long look at the old archons of the Valley. Remember AOL? AOL were the undisputed overlords of the online world in the dialup days. Remember AOLTimeWarner? 

How about MySpace? How about Twitter? Remember Twitter?

Or how about Yahoo? Remember Yahoo? 
Good times.

Pay heed, Valley Boys: "Disruption" isn't just a two-way street, it's a demolition derby.

I'm not telling them they don't already know. I'd say that our new overlords are all too aware how shaky their perch is up there on Olympus 2.0. If it takes less and less time for computing power to double, likewise it seems that it takes less and less time these days for corporate titans to fall right back down that hill, like Sisyphus and his stone.  


  We can only hope they don't take the rest of the world down with them.

 



*And how does Cox write a "Guide to the Cosmos" if he's never stepped foot off Earth? I've never been to Denmark but you don't see me writing travelogues about it now, do you?

61 comments:

  1. Anyone who think A.I. is what saves humanity from death doesn't understand that we are not our bodies. We are only consciousness having a physical experience. There is no need to 'upload' our minds into anything to live forever. Forever is a false goal because time is not real. Death is an illusion. Transhumanism is not the beginning of anything worthwhile, just one possible ending of our physical experience.

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    1. It just goes to show that the most anxious people in the world, the most fearful, are the most domineering and authoritarian. The more power you lord over others the more a prisoner of fear you become.

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  2. Mr. Knowles,

    Fine job as usual, thanks!

    Do you happen to have any reference/link to Fred Hoyle's may 1971 press conference you've linked on your Lucifer's Technologies series?

    Thanks again!
    e.

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    1. Is there one on the piece itself? There should be.

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  3. Lots to chew on here. I know people who don't go to Burning Man anymore precisely because of what you mentioned above, well that & the fact that its become a playground for celebrity hedonists.

    Disruption seems like eschatology for hipster business school grads with trust funds. Of course it all depends on seeing everyone as mere consumers, of what is not important. & that seems more & more to be the real message of the new corporatist feudalism: we aren't seen as citizens with rights, we're consumers with niche market needs. Even the elections are about branding.

    None of which matters of course if we suffer full-blown enviromental collapse. Given what is known about current levels of species extinction, the proverbial canaries in the coalmine, I'd say that might be more important than worrying about market shares:

    "It’s frightening but true: Our planet is now in the midst of its sixth mass extinction of plants and animals — the sixth wave of extinctions in the past half-billion years. We’re currently experiencing the worst spate of species die-offs since the loss of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Although extinction is a natural phenomenon, it occurs at a natural “background” rate of about one to five species per year. Scientists estimate we’re now losing species at 1,000 to 10,000 times the background rate, with literally dozens going extinct every day."

    http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_biodiversity/extinction_crisis/

    Can't buy all those shiny new trinkets or use Uber or AirBnB when you can't breathe the air after all. Never mind the fact that there probably won't be any jobs either. Only consolation being the archon-types & their tulpa companies won't know what hit them. How's that for disruption? Honestly, given how we treat the planet, could you blame a more advanced species for not wanting us wandering around the cosmos? Besides, if we were serious about climate change & pollution, we sure as hell wouldn't be fracking or using tar sands oil to run our economy, such as it is.

    Regarding consciousness existing outside of Earth, I will say this: I had a very unusual experience recently. I saw my first UFO. Thought long & hard about posting that here, haven't even really told anyone about this yet. It happened a few days ago, early one morning (daytime sighting), totally unexpected & very fast. I was fixing a cup of coffee in the kitchen, happened to look out the window to see how the weather was shaping up for the day, & just happened to see in time a large gray-green metallic-looking disc poke out about 3/4 of the way from behind a cloud bank nearly directly overhead. It just sat there for a few seconds, & I could see the underneath section was rotating in what looked like a clockwise direction. & as if reacting to my observing it, it just suddenly darted back behind the cloud, faster than anything I've ever seen. It all happened within I think maybe 30 seconds, not enough time to film/photograph, & regardless, my phone was in the other room recharging. I should add that I live not far from a large Airforce reserve base & am used to seeing all manner of aircraft overhead, including the occasional drone. This was not a plane or drone like anything I'd ever seen, nor did it move like one. Just thought I'd share that with you all.

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    1. Someone is once again disrupting the disrupters:

      https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts-twitter-spotify-reddit/

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    2. An earlier draft of this piece went into much greater detail with the whole issue with Fort and the prison-planet concept. But I decided that would be better off in its own post. But its interesting you mention your sighting. I wrote about my family's sighting in southern New Hampshire last year and earlier this year there was a wave of orb sightings. And just recently a story emerged of a military helicopter pursuing one of the orange orbs over Nashua. Something seems to be ramping up. And of course we now see the Blue Beam hoax re-emerging under a different name. I'm going to smash that apart again in a coming post. But at the same time you can't discount some kind of false flag event using ARVs, which seem to be flying around a lot lately over Area 51.

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    3. Yeah, who knows what the military actually has in its possession now, whether real cutting-edge skunk works tech, captured/reverse-engineered alien tech, ARVs, holograms, whatever. After all, sightings of the stealth planes were going on & being reported as UFOs in the 70s & the military didn't admit to having them until the '91 Gulf War.

      Was thinking a lot about Fort's ideas after what I witnessed, & I remembered your stories about NH sightings as well. I do know that this part of MA has a long history of UFO activity, a few years ago there was a big sighting in Amherst of a large black triangle that hovered silently above a major road filled with rush-hour traffic. Also there was a large sighting & related abduction event that took place in Great Barrington in 1969. Public Television did a documentary about it & the town even set up a small monument where it happened. Area was also part of the big '66 UFO flap, I've met locals who saw ones from back then when they were kids, said they were all night sightings of disc & cigar-shaped craft lit up like Xmas trees. Also, Kenneth Grant made some interesting comments once about long history of UFO activity in New England being related to odd deities worshiped by long-extinct Native American tribes. Make of that what you will.

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  4. Death of consciousness is an illusion. Death of the ego or identity is not. We are not our consciousness. We are it's vessel.

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  5. WHAT MIKE SAID.

    As an aside: Remember TimeWarner (now Spectrum)

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  6. All reminds me of delillos new book

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  7. 'Why the desperate push for Mars? What is that based on?'

    The gap between the tech guru's beliefs from the Church of the Holy Kurzweil and our current understanding of the possible is so large, I have no idea if they're suffering from the stereotypical hubris of archetypal mad scientists or they're using this stuff for trolling purposes to keep inquisitive eyes away from... something else.

    Did you guys see the Musk Mars video a while back? It shows a ship being sent to the Red Planet containing the first colonists. Very entertaining, but little different to Nasa's plans in the 70s/80s which inspired the likes of Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy.

    http://www.space.com/34251-spacex-mars-mission.html

    They also share the same problems - you'd need to send several missions to Mars containing equipment, robotic chemical factories etc. before humans went. The cost of sending dozens of colonists like in the video would be staggering; consider that the ISS has chewed up more than $100 billion over the years & a Mars mission would involve multiple ships an order of magnitude more complex. Where will the money come from for this? International space partnerships between the major powers are dead for the foreseeable future, private business won't be able to afford it. Can't see Nasa being given an enormous increase in funding, either.

    Ha, just finished writing this comment and remembered KSR gave an interview a while back where he was skeptical about Mars missions. Did a quick Google and found this article - from yesterday:

    https://www.inverse.com/article/22536-kim-stanley-robinson-elon-musk-mars-plans-sci-fi-cliche

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    1. Unless they're hiding some really juicy secret tech I just don't see Mars happening any time soon. It reminds me of the Soviet era, as does so much in this country these days. I guess Gorbachev's prophecy was right on the money.

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  8. Did we meet in another life? You had red hair, I think...

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    1. I have no way of answering that, not knowing who you are, alas.

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  9. Some ghost in the machines today. It is a rigged internet, no? Burning man is fun and about artistic expression, everyone should take the time and visit the Black Rock desert. Perhaps the exodus from terra firma has something to do with what is coming our way from deep space? 87

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    1. Well, there's a lot of folks who say Burning Man is being taken over by the rich, Valley types and so on. A lot of OG Burners say it's lost its soul. I can't comment on that myself.

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  10. "Why the desperate push for Mars? What is that based on?"

    It's a deep subject. So just in case my relative ignorance might function in an Occam's razorly way, I venture to say, for one, "fear". As you imply, the more you have to lose, the more you have to fear. And therefore (arguably, if you argue with fists and clubs, that is), the more you have to fear, the higher you have to throw your enemy's femur (or a super-powered tin-can-full-of-live-meat) towards the cosmos, to better ensure a sense of your own survival. Along those lines, astronauts or survivalists sent to mars are scapegoats. They are, if not the enemy himself, a sacrifice to the enemy/Demiurge, the same (perhaps) as the human inhabitants of _2001: A Space Odyssey_ are sacrificial victims and Hal 9000, the bloody Aztec priest near (if not at) the top of the ontological pyramid. They are not anything like insurance for the human race. Throwing a few live humans at Mars is not an insurance policy for a race. It is theater to balm the fears of those who have the most to fear, God help them.

    That would seem to be why men masturbate, become rocket scientists and/or Cosmic Magi of Their Own Imaginations. _Pace_ Al, Jack, Elron, and others of course. The only thing they had to fear was...impotence, basically.

    Number two (as it were), there is the element of entertainment. What better live entertainment for a billionaire than to colonize mars? Or better yet, nuke the poles, THEN colonize mars? Easy as 1-2-3, if you have enough gigafactories/billions of $$$ !? Just crap a few bodies into space. No, into a can. Then into space.

    Maybe, just maybe, that is why Space X failed recently. Or why a global dust storm for Mars has been predicted. Perhaps we've entered the era when some of Elon Musk's craziest ideas are already being put to the test -- by him or by someone else, who knows yet? Of course, a polar meltdown on Mars would visibly mar the entire planet, no pun intended, once the dust settled. The red planet would glow redder than ever. That would be cool. But maybe not as cool as uploading my personality to the go***mn friggin' INTERNET, dude!

    I don't mean to denigrate Elon et. al. My jury is still out on him. He is sounding the warning knell these days -- on himself, even if he doesn't realize it! As such, he is like...well, I better not digress too far into Chris's territory. That of life imitating art, or of myth, reinstantiating Form.

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    1. I like Musk, he's not nearly as evil as his peers. But does anyone take his Mars thing seriously. As far as I can tell the answer is no. But its his obsession that fascinates me, why exactly he clings so tightly to it. There's a lot more to the story there, I thinkl.

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  11. This is how people who ironically embrace a future of armbands and IEDs come to unironically embrace a future of armbands and IEDs.

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  12. Found a good quality copy of the Disney Mars program KSR alluded to in my comment link earlier.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0sbqqYo97s

    First half hour is basically an animated intro to space & the idea of extraterrestrial life in the solar system. The last ten minutes are about a future manned mission. 500ft long flying discs with nuclear-powered ion drives. Nearly sixty years later and we haven't made much progress. Also contrast the intelligence level & vocabulary of this 1950s documentary aimed at young people with it's dumbed-down modern equivalents.

    Finally, this may have been posted elsewhere, but had to link. It's a recent music video on Smartphone culture (or lack thereof).

    Beautifully animated in the style of a vintage Max Fleischer cartoon. Check it out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VASywEuqFd8




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    1. Excellent- thanks for the detective work, Rob. Will check out.

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  13. ABBOTT AND COSTELLO GO TO MARS!
    and...
    I, MUDD
    check them out and understand the human condition.

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  14. The Singularity crowd's idea of immortality - consciousness as a computer program uploaded to a computer cube, perhaps on a spaceship touring the cosmos - is identical to one of my ideas of Hell. Also, the ultimate Archon prison. It's also not too far off from the nightmare Lovecraft described in The Whisperer In Darkness. I'll pass, thanks.

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    1. And isn´t that´s just a snazzier version of where we´re already at? Consciouness downloaded to and seemingly stuck isolated in a meatcube. With no way out but annihilation. Stupidity: Being convinced you can cure a problem with more of the same- only yet another variety- that caused it to begin with.

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    2. There's a desperation to it all. Something unsettling. Like men who've traveled to the borders of the known world only to encounter a vast void. Less than nothing. Men who've discovered that all the genius and power and dominance actually means very little.

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    3. Ouch! I've just realised the astonishing cognitive dissonance these guys must be suffering from, stuck between wanting to escape 'the matrix' and simultaneously wanting to 'download' themselves further into it.

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  15. "Where do you even begin with this kind of narcissistic solipsism? Where's it coming from? We've barely begun to poke our noses outside our solar system (and still have no way of actually testing our methodology) and yet these people have unilaterally decided that consciousness exists nowhere else?"

    I haven't studied your context here enough to respond 100% properly. But it brings to mind the Matrix idea which some people -- Elon Musk et. al. -- seem to naively or implicitly accept. That, and the assumption that we are most likely a simulation, which assumes that not only AI, but artificial sentience, are grounds of our reality. What proof do we have of artificial sentience? What probability do we have to project its existence into our own presence? None I could think of. But if Elon Musk is so adamant on this account, he is to my way of thinking either (a) a philosophical naif or (b) convinced the Turing test is being passed already with flying colors in back-lab demonstrations. I'm assuming (b).

    If enough hybris, money and expertise were devoted, then, to rending asunder the curtain separating us from our makers, (or at least, that keeps us from actually rooting the underlying operating system, the firewall that is), perhaps it would be possible, or even likely, that we would destroy consciousness itself. That is, in a virtual universe. We could do the equivalent of typing, as root:

    cd / && rm -rf *

    Where * means "all directory branches/species and all processes/files/beings". Omnicide.

    That could be the source of the hybris. And who knows, the Matrixian ideologues could be right. Or partially right anyway. Even if they are, it is sheer hybris to think one could just hack in and type a few commands i.e. "ps aux | grep ^root | tr -s " " | cut -d " " -f 2 | xargs -n 100 -I {} kill -s 9 {}" and kill an entire system. Or is it?

    One could kill an entire system, even an entire cloud of computers, with just such a command. In our world, at least. So while I hate to defend hubris, I think I understand the hacker's way of thinking. (Polymathic applied scientists like Musk et. al. are nothing if not hackers). If it turns out that Matrixology describes a "real" (if not exactly noumenally unique or distinct) state of affairs, then yes, we just might be able to destroy the universe, or at least, one of them.

    So if it's simworld, and even if we have a piss-poor understanding even of such things like the rings of Saturn or the artificial planet Iaeptus and other infra-Plutonian objects in the local S.S., we are still dangerous. As dangerous as a nanotech-capable genome in the genetics of a silicon-based, cybernetic, humanoid lifeform (e.g. _Prometheus_ and the Alien mytharc).

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    1. I'll refer you to my previous reply. There's something disturbing and somewhat grave about all of that- a discovery that they actually won't be able to rewrite the universal code and that for all the money and power and power to smash the rest of the world to bits, it all adds up to very little.

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    2. 'for all the money and power and power to smash the rest of the world to bits, it all adds up to very little'

      I think this is a very important point. Management has been dying in my own country since (at least) the 80's. No-one in any position of authority wants to achieve anything any more; they just want money. If that ain't the work of a Dark Force, I don't know what is.

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  16. Speaking of synchronicity, I just discovered Adam Curtis' films, "Hyper-Normalisation" was interesting, relevant, but flawed as well. Keep up the amazing work here, your posts are getting more relevant by the week!

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    1. Yes- very interesting theories. We've been discussing them on the FB group. Cheers.

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  17. "Everyone wants a magical solution to their problem, and everyone refuses to believe in magic." - The Mad Hatter from Once Upon A Time

    The Agnostic Billionaire Boys club have finally invented their own religion without claiming to be religious so that makes them perhaps even more delusional dangerous than the usual religious fanatics we all know and tolerate. The basic issue comes back down to their denial of Ether/Spirit and trying to replace that immaterial real phenomenon with questionable mathematical models of what they believe existence is.

    Getting to specifics they want to "upload" into a simulated environment but the same people will laugh at anyone that speaks about lucid dreaming and astral projection both are known consciousness transference techniques that work. Even one better the Buddhists, Mystics, Taoists, and numerous other shamanic paradigms have figure the issue their grappling with millenniums ago. Oh but that's superstition right and the Übermensch of Silicon Valley PRIDE themselves being "men of science" no superstitious mumble jumbo at least not in public but obviously some are secretly studying such spiritual paradigms that they would mock in public behind closed doors.

    They keep running into the same basic problem that they can't digitized spirit at least not yet. Their consciousness is too steeped in the most debased levels of psychological development. Oh I'm being too harsh n my criticism.... well wanting to detonate nuclear weapons over the poles of another planet in the hopes it will terraform the environment is pretty unhinged wouldn't you think. Even if there's no sentient life on the surface of that planet but has anyone checked inside Mars? There's no telling if such an drastic action of donating nuclear weapons on Mars causes a negative chain reaction of events destabilizing the planet making it truly uninhabitable or outright setting a chain reaction causing a cataclysm destroying the fourth planet in out solar system. "Opps, did I do that" in Steve Urkel voice.

    That's exactly what Rudolf Steiner spoke about in his lectures about the spirit Ahriman being the mis(guiding) intelligence of Western science in his lectures about that entity's influence upon our “modern world”.They have no patience nor humility to study under real sages, shamans, and spiritual masters, whose people figured out and passed down the knowledge in their teachings of how to survive body death with full senses of intact. Nawwww Western Science must patent pending conquer all and "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" to boot. :)

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    1. I can keep saying the same thing, but again- just scroll up to my previous replies. It all applies to this as well. Bruce Sterling has some interesting thoughts on the Singularity- I'll have to do a post on them in the future.

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    2. And now there's this, just into the news desk...
      https://www.sciencenews.org/article/latest-dark-matter-searches-leave-scientists-empty-handed

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    3. I will not allow it. I am Vishnu, my son of Righteousness. I will destroy their vision. I will crash their chariots. Did they think I would not see how they drove their chariots. Right into the Fire. I heard them laughing at the wild heart of creation. The laughter of fools. Mad laughter. I am crashing them. They have used sound to kill. I have destroyed worlds for less. Go to safety. Flee the battlefield, Horus.

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  18. Pardon the off-topic intrusion -- you may wish to delete after linking -- but have you seen the last episode of Black Mirror, season 3? My imdb review, to whet a palate in case not:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5709236/reviews-3

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  19. People who get too close to 'tech' or 'the market' start to see it as something other than themselves. This is Narcissism, as explained by McLuhan: Narcissus fell in love with his reflection because he didn't realise it was Narcissus.

    More ancient tradition just calls it 'idolatry', and cautions against it in the strongest possible terms...

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    1. I guess that's why the Valley Boys and their fellow travelers are working so hard to erase those old lessons from the schools, all the wisdom of the past. They don't want the younger generation to realize we've all been here before.

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  20. Lewis Mumford says society enables technology, not the other way around. Perhaps our tech has just reached our current societal limits (actually, I'd put the date somewhere in the late 80's). There are then various options: stagnation, a dark age, or a renaissance. Renaissance will come from a societal change, not a technological change. The question is: 'how shall we live?'

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    1. I don't know if society as it were has much influence to do much of anything. Never before in my life have I ever seen a more disempowered populace. And it's only getting worse. People like Mumford may not have forseen that.

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    2. I mean, just maybe, we get the tech we deserve. If tech has gone to heck, perhaps it's because society has gone to heck, and not just the other way round. Remember that in the UK the society which came out of WWII is the society which gave us not just the transistor but the National Health Service.

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  21. Maybe the "mars" project is about surviving the future on earth (no space travel involved, just plain terra-re-formation) because they know the enviroment on earth is already screwed up? (pollution, polar shift, solar flares.... who knows for sure) Maybe is just a version of them "beating the Apocalypsis"... would that be the ultimate "victory against god"?

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    1. You raise an interesting point but Elon Musk seems serious about colonizing Mars. Although Musk has no intention of going there himself; "Elon Musk says he won't be the first person on Mars because he doesn't want to die" http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-doesnt-want-to-die-going-to-mars-2016-9

      Isn't interesting that so much money being wasted excuse me spent to try and colonize other planets like Mars but we don't see any attempt at building underwater cities. 71% of our planet is covered in water: oceans, seas, lakes, etc. Therefore there lots of room in the oceans for building undersea colonies. Especially because we know abut the existence of deep underground military bases. Granted there's greater pressure in the deep sea than land but even accounting for that fact if should be far easier to build a city under the ocean then a city on another planet.

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    2. "Granted there's greater pressure in the deep sea than land but even accounting for that fact if should be far easier to build a city under the ocean then a city on another planet. "

      Of course. It would be easier to farm the sea at 14,000 atmospheres of pressure, and easier to build a geothermal plant for power, and easier to mine the bedrock, than it would be to grow crops, raise livestock, and collect solar power, and dig a mine, on the surface of Mars. Mmmm Hmmm. Seems pretty obvious to me!

      All you have to do is keep out those 14,000 atmospheres of pressure. Yep. No problemo. 14,000 atmospheres versus 0.2 or so atmospheres of pressure on the Mars surface. That makes it far easier, ipso facto, doesn't it. No doubt about it.

      Imagine the water pressure you'd have there! The highest setting on the shower head would read "pink broth". That's what you'd be, after a few seconds under water flowing at that pressure.

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    3. You must be totally unaware of the existence of submarines that can easily traverse that depths within the oceans basin just fine. You also somehow erroneously believe that traveling to another planet through the Van Allen Belt and setting up a colony on a basically barren planet is somehow the easier option. Especially when numerous experts claiming such a venture is practically of "death sentence" and even Elon Musk himself stated that the first colonists will be basically sacrificing their lives for a better future but Musk won't undertake that mission himself within his lifetime.

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    4. There seems to be a mental block on our part over that kind of undersea exploration, despite the obvious benefits. We're drawn to the stars for religious reasons, because we're adopted children searching for our parents. Darwinists claim life originated in the oceans but no one really believes that, even if they have to say they do. Everyone feels in their hearts that our true origins are out there. It's been that way since we asked ourselves those questions.

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  22. Mining Mars. That surface stuff has been harvested.
    Like this place.

    Trying to invoke more nonterrestial elements would be unwise. Unless that is gambling on any survivors being sensible through mutation.

    Undersea stuff has been done, mostly. A lot of "sunken artifacts" were never surface based to begin with.

    If there are no unbursted bubbles within reach, then every new frontier promised is just another con job.

    At least when humans are involved. Parlaying with the cosmos does not take much. A few whales and snakes and wolves and other nations seem to know how to build a working magnetosphere.

    Living technology? Look around, and listen. Not so much meteor worship.

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  23. Please give us yr ideas about Set(h) Rogan's Gnostic/Zen revelatory movie Sausage Party. If you haven't seen it or weren't gonna bother here's the briefest plotline for encouragement. Groceries sing songs of praise to the gods (shoppers) each morning hoping to be taken to the great beyond. A returnee sows doubt in Frank the Sausage's mind & is silenced by a Native American "Non-perishable". The returnee - Honey Mustard - is derided as crazy - schizo in fact -honey or mustard? His suicide results in Frank & friends wandering loose & Frank visits the Non-perishables' cave where in a cannabis session he is told they wrote the (original) daily hymn & it's a lie - the gods devour groceries to grow stronger & bigger. With the help of Frank's twin who returns from beyond with confirmation & a band of heroes (including genius Gum stuck in a wheelchair a la Stephen Hawking!) the groceries rise up & kill the gods/shoppers. A considerable sex magick/orgy follows & in the afterglow further revelation from the Native shaman who says there's a higher truth! It's all unreal! The groceries are cartoons ie false ego structures. Zen much? Need the final spoiler? Stargate anyone? Full of swearing, jokes & social commentary. I'd add that my enjoyment of this movie was enhanced by my reading yr blog Chris - without yr input I wouldn't have related Westworld or the Yazidi to this movie at all. Hope you enjoy! [& enough to give us an indepth analysis - good & bad points]

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    1. I was going to suggest that too. Taken as psyop-from-Hollywood, there is every reason to see this as part of the allegedly Werner-von-Braun-predicted alien invasion scenario. Except in this case, the invasion is already a fact...it is a Matrix-like scenario where the protagonists are pure food and united across ethnic lines by...sex?! Anyway it was fun to watch. Great date movie, in fact, depending on who your date is.

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    2. I'll have to overcome my overwhelming and complete aversion to anything coming out of Hollywood and give it a look. But as it stands I'm too busy right now to watch anything. But your interpretation is certainly fascinating. I doubt any of that was consciously designed on the filmmakers part, however.

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    3. By Occam's razor you would be right. Still it is surprising how uncannily the same basic ideas control our collective perception. And how obviously. What really surprises me personally is how little time has passed in my life since none of this was very obvious. Life had a creepy feeling sometimes. Now it is so all-pervasive as to seem laughable. Of course, it is Halloween...

      Better spare yourself _Sausage Party_. It is, almost literally, the ancient mysteries as seen through the eyes of a bath-salts junkie. Not a very pleasant or positive story, in the end, the (predictable) orgy notwithstanding.

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    4. I'm fairly sure the movie fell almost fully formed out of the filmmakers' minds after an acid trip or two, & it's the literal-ness of the gnostic message that struck me - my plot summary is literal too -there are Gods, The Great Beyond, & a friggin Stargate in this movie, & all beings are living a programmed illusion for temporary comfort. A side plot sees the Gods dosed with a psychedelic (??) form of bath salts that has them see the groceries as living beings, perhaps a small clue there. And unfortunately living under Archon rule or in a manipulated Matrix aint so pleasant maybe, but Stargate travel as a conclusion? Full disclosure - I live in a lush green valley in New Zealand where almost everything American can be dismissed as "Hollywood" (yes even Presidential elections) & I did Religious Studies (& LSD) at university back in the early 70's, so... I hope that Chris finds the movie worthwhile & provides us with his insight.

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  24. I do agree the film has all those things. And amazing it is, they can just pop out after an acid trip or whatever. But amazing though it is, _Sausage Party_ is also a loud, politically unsubtle, postapocalyptically self-indulgent free-for-all of glitzoid Hollywood production values... in a way making the story all the more twisted and hard to bear. It's ultra-serious subtext in a hyper-nihilistic wrapper. For what it's worth that's my caveat.

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    1. V - very well stated, I hope Hollywood doesn't steal "ultra-serious subtext in a hyper-nihilistic wrapper" for advertising. Such deep theme from such shallow waters was all I had. Cheers.

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  25. As put forward by Renee Descartes, the universe was put in motion and all that exists in it is governed by what most call "god". In fact, much of Renee Descartes own treatises were gnostic in nature, owing to the fact that alchemy was the primary means of studying "the elments" in the middle ages, which of course ties to ancient cultures and traditions. Hence, the Osiris spacecraft is searching for the origin of life on asteroids (where Osiris is king carbon or the carbon that gave rise to life on earth and the 'magic element' of life symbolic of the life that rises out of the infinite blackness of time and space)..... In fact, you could find reflections of Descartes in the pyramids as the archetypes for creation where the "ben ben" stone is symbolic of the same 'first cause' in the form of "ra" as the first spark or first fire in the alchemy of the universe (first cause, first chemical reaction) and the birth of all the elements in nature (earth, air, fire, water).

    The problem though is that Descartes had it backward. "I think therefore I am should be I am therefore I think". Meaning in the western tradition, philosophers put their thoughts and ideas OUTSIDE the infinite creative power of the universe as opposed to within it. As if their chemical/biological brain and the thoughts that flow through it are "theirs" as in rising out of some separate continuum of time and space from the biology that created it. That is the exact opposite of gnostic thought and ancient occult traditions where man examines the patterns to see the mind of the universe at work both from within and without not "separate". Just like it is absurd to suggest that a felines in their "catness" are separate from nature and the universe, so too is it to think the same about man and his "mind". The mind of man is no less a construct of the universe than the mind of a cat and the dreams of a cat exist in the same cosmic bubble as the dreams of man, both being bio-chemical reflections of the dreams of the universe and nature itself.

    http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Rene-Descartes-Philosopher.htm

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  26. Just discovered your blog. Great stuff. Right up my alley. I wish there was a better way to navigate to older blog posts besides typing in key words. I'll keep reading older stuff. It's all good.

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