Wednesday, May 31, 2017

The Covenant and the Cargo Cult: Rune Soup interview



On the latest Rune Soup podcast, Gordon and I discuss the disappointment that is Alien: Covenant. Then we speculate about its place in the cargo cult worldview and the conditioning agenda prescribed in 1960 by the Brookings Institution. I've been working on a companion post for this discussion, which I hope to have up by tomorrow night at the latest.



I do my best to keep up with Gordon but effort only takes you so far. I'm out of practice with these kinds of things ( I barely say a word to anyone most of the day) and I was experiencing some major fibro fog because of the miserable weather we've been having here but Gordon goes above and beyond to pick up any slack. Gordon is a bonafide genius (I don't use that term lightly) and gets my vote as the Mozart of Podcasters. 

Alien: Covenant has been cited as one of the major under-performers of the summer season and has been (rightly) trashed by YouTube critics but seems to be an important part of this 57 year-old acclimation program we've all been subjected to (slow and steady wins the race, apparently). It's probably more interesting for the things it doesn't say (but implies) than anything you're actually seeing on the screen itself.

Gordon and I also speculate as to whether the current Deep State civil war had some kind of suppressive effect on a planned-but-aborted multimedia rollout that may include the Tom DeLonge Sekret Machines program and the drip-out of news stories like the mind-boggling Jason Wright/Penn State paper on ancient aliens. I usually don't much go for the whole "disclosure" meme but if you're looking for evidence that such a thing is actually underway that's a pretty good place to start.

There's a lot we didn't get to and I'll try to address some of the points I had laid out in my notes for this show but didn't get around to raising in my next post. Looking forward to hearing your feedback about the film.

14 comments:

  1. Interesting as always. Do you have any insights on the hotel magnet/space infrastructure guru Mr. Bigelow's thoughts on aliens among us here now?

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    1. Well, he would know, wouldn't he? Very interesting announcement. There's your "disclosure" right there.

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  2. And now you have Kurt Russell's Phoenix Lights UFO Sighting that he has been telling viewers of the BBC about in his junket for 'Guardians of the Galaxy 2'.
    https://brizdazz.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/kurt-russells-phoenix-lights-ufo.html
    Why 20 years later he comes clean about something that slipped his mind in 1997 when the news media was full of PL headlines is probably the $40,000 question.

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    1. Yes, that is the question. What a strange and resonant year that was. Coming up on the anniversary of Diana...

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  3. Any thoughts on Grant Cameron's statements about the CIA & disclosure vs. confirmation?

    http://www.theeventchronicle.com/metaphysics/galactic/grant-cameron-governments-ufo-disclosure-plan/#

    Quote:

    "The disclosure word became unpopular, perhaps because there have been many predictions of imminent disclosure with nothing happening. People now either believe that it won’t happen, or they share the position taken by John Alexander and repeated by former Senior CIA officer Jim Semivan, which is that “disclosure has already happened, it is confirmation that we are after.”

    Cameron's conclusions regarding disclosure & the current administration are also worth a look:

    "My conclusion is there is no plan to fully disclose, no matter how loud the demands inside the UFO community are. The plan is to continue to drop stories till people are so acclimatized that when full disclosure does happen by those in power, it will surprise no one.

    When all the evidence is gathered, it is pretty clear what is happening, but like every good story there is one story that refuses to fit in. This story deals with the election of Donald Trump, and his UFO briefing. I have watched this story for months and was actually contacted by people who thought Trump would not be told the truth. Within this Trump world is a story of a briefing, and a president who was picked by intelligence to be /the disclosure president. It involves a portal/pod. It involves a “goodie bag” which is like an instant replay of the 1997 Corso filing cabinet or the 2012 Chase Brandon Roswell box story. The story also claims that the new president is “open to disclosure and against disinformation.” The story is full disclosure and is tied into an identifiable member of the CIA."

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    1. I believe Cameron has it right, David. That certainly seems to be the way it's unfolding. He uses the term acclimatization as well.

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  4. Thanks for that link, it's really interesting and it sheds some good light on questions that have been bugging me for a while. Especially interesting the stuff about disclosure and Trump. I wonder if it is in any shape or form connected to the decision to meet with major religious leaders on his first foreign trip. And to the very odd decision of the Trump family to dress as if they were attending a funeral when they were meeting the Pope.

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    1. Trump is the Great Distractor. He gins up the outrage while the pieces get put into place. I've been saying as much all along. He clowns around while Tillerson, Mattis and McMaster do all the real work. You can bet he's never been read in on any UFO information. He almost certainly doesn't care.

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  5. Humans have the capacity to be Buddhas as do EBE's so in this common existence we find existence of the Other. I think by now any "Disclosure" will be a lie if set forth by the State or those close to the State leaking information. EBE's are able to Disclose themselves after all and this is how the encounter arises.

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    1. Yeah, the same people who think the government lies about everything turn around and expect them to tell the truth about disclosure. Go figure.

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  6. Just been listening to the podcast, good conversation, guys. Thanks.

    Few thoughts. Did you see 'The Furious Gods', the making-of documentary about Prometheus? In-depth and about twice the length of the actual movie, is well worth a look. One thing puzzled me, screenwriter Jon Spaihts says that he thought the only way to do a new alien movie would be to go back and look at how the Space Jockey was linked to humanity. Yet in the first Alien movie all we see is a fossilised corpse with no indication that the creature has anything to do with our creation. It's almost as if the AAT theme was something the scriptwriter was told they must include.

    I was immensely disappointed with Alien: Covenant. It looked like they were doing a Star Trek-style soft reboot, taking elements of the original - the violent deaths, a short-haired feisty female lead, sinister androids - then adding a sheen of modern special effects on top. Impressive visuals but it was a shame the 'Single human and an android fly off to find mankind's origins' conclusion from Prometheus was almost completely ignored.


    Robert Temple & the Sirius Mystery. I've got a reprint edition of the original and the 1990s update. The newer version is the one featuring the strange conspiracy ideas, Nommos in hibernation on Saturn's moon Phoebe etc.


    On ancient alien books from the Sixties, another important title was Intelligent Life in the Universe by I. S Shklovskii with revisions by Carl Sagan. This was the book that looked at the story of Oannes as possible paleocontact myth along with other exotic theories (such as the moons of Mars being artificial).

    Long out of print, but there is a scan on the Internet Archive:

    https://archive.org/details/SaganIL


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    1. I really need to watch those Prometheus extras. I wasn't really thrilled with the movie so I never looked into it.

      And yes, Sagan was singing a different tune back in the 60s. He seems to have gotten the "talk" somewhere along the line. Science is government and you can't sit at the table without saying grace.

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  7. I listened to this last night and enjoyed it very much! Thanks Chris!
    I also just started reading some of Gordon White's stuff ---"Chaos Magic" and "Star. Ships" and am also enjoying these
    tremendously!
    ATB,
    Devin

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    1. Gordon is the best, Devin. You can't go wrong.

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