17, the Green Sun and Deepwater on the Horizon

I've been doing the kind of work that I publish here on the Secret Sun for a very long time now. And when I go public with an idea or meme it's usually only after a long period of study. So when I talk about water/ocean symbolism or the 17 meme or the Gus Grissom Cult, it's because I've gotten hit after hit after hit with them in my research. Symbols follow trends, and vice versa, so understanding what symbols are circulation can help you figure out what's brewing in the Collective Unconscious.

Now, I spent a lot of time in December and January writing about water symbolism, and wrote this in one post:
As I said on William Henry's show in December (and here as well) we need to be on the lookout for water symbolism this year, as well as mermaid/mermen and other symbols associated with Sirius in esoteric lore. The recent Serious Mysteries posts explored these memes in depth, particularly as they relate to James Cameron, who is obviously very deeply obsessed with both aliens and the oceans (and Gus Grissom, strangely enough).
Strangely enough, mermaids were featured on the episode of 20/20 that I briefly appear in, but the biggest story of the year- of the past several years- by far is most certainly water-based: the BP/Deepwater Horizon catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico. I explored some of the memes emerging from this story on Tuesday (though I neglected to mention the horizon="Horus-zone" etymology bit).

I haven't done more since I've been very busy with work, but I'm sure a story this size is chock full of weirdness lurking beneath the surface. Another reason I've not done more on the Gulf story is that there's an aura of unreality around it, given the massive destruction to the environment and the economic pain to the population it's causing.

And sure enough, it was on the 17th that BP CEO Tony Hayward was dragged before a congressional committee to explain his company's response. It was also on the 17th that Barackobamun wringed some serious concessions out of BP, to the tune of $20 Billion, and longtime Secret Sun readers are well aware of how obsessed the man in the Oval Office seems to be with the number 17.

The BP logo was featured in one of the earliest major posts on this blog and the Green Sun is certainly familiar to regular readers, so it certainly ties into the work that I've been doing here, such as it is.

Where it's all going I'm still not sure, but I'm not exactly comforted by the fact that a similar scenario was featured in both The X-Files and the film Knowing, especially since the latter film ties in a little too neatly into what's been going on on the Sun lately. I do think it's interesting that the Gulf of Mexico certainly figures into ancient astronaut lore and that BP's other endangered rig is called the Atlantis.

Speaking of which, remember also that a French team recently announced that they had found a submerged Mayan city not all that far from the Gulf. Would the powers-that-be engineer a disaster like this to draw attention away from a find like that, particularly if this sunken city was filled with, shall we say, seriously anomalous features? It is interesting to note that the archaeologists in question are keeping the location of this city secret.

There is a lot more to the Gulf story than we're being told, and it connects to these deeper symbolic themes that I've been telling you about for the past year or so. Of that I'm sure. Understanding these themes and where they may be leading us to is the only reason I put so much of my time into this blog. Because I have a feeling that we're all headed for some very deep waters indeed.

SYNC LOG: A fascinating semiotic flashback to Dec. 17th.

SYNC LOG REDUX: Care to guess which X-Files rerun is on Syfy tonight?



UPDATE: Did someone say water symbolism?

57 comments:

  1. I am sort of feeling that this tragedy is like a 911 event, only unraveling more slowly. Horus on the Horizon? I didn't catch that until now. Found a few odd synchs between BP and the Narada, from Star Trek 11.

    Cheers, and BTW, thanks for all you do, I know it takes dedication. To what? Still trying to figure that out. :-)

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  2. Another interesting synchbit: It was the 100th anniversary of Jacques-Yves Cousteau’s birthday a few days ago. His ship was the Calypso. Calypso was a sea goddess, the daughter of the Titan, Atlas, and is also known as Atlantis. Calypso was confined to the island of Ogygia for supporting her father and the Titans during the Titanomachy.

    Aye Calypso!

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  3. Speaking of mermen, I suppose you've seen THIS?

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  4. Could this sync with the movie Cocoon?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoon_%28film%29

    Atlantis was off the Gulf Coast [St. Petersburg Florida?].

    As a kid, I remember the big cocoons in the movie frightening me. I thought they looked like bugs.

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  5. my daughter had a dream she was a mermaid.the clouds represent the people,in the clouds are water ,we a a drop in the bucket.when it said Jesus walked on water, He was made of mostly water,we are water.So when it says he's coming in the clouds it meant in the crowd of the people.love tammy

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  6. In terms of water symbolism, apparently the last episode of Lost was leaden with it, plus if you look at the trailer for Inception, which is probably going to be the big talking point movie this summer, its imagery is very watery indeed.

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  7. @Chris,

    In light of the Deepwater HoR-I-Zon(e) Gulf Oil Disaster I took another look at that
    famous OBAMA campaign poster...

    The colorized portrait one with the large "HOPE", and by extension, the famous Circle and flag stripes symbol.

    The Symbol...
    The Sun on the HoR-I-Zon with waves of red oil !

    the positioning of the logo above the "E" of HOPE is interesting as it could be used as an accent and make the pronuciation similar to HOPEh (or "HOPI", as the HOPI Indians pronounce it)

    Which leads us to the the famous Hopi "White Feather" prophecies...

    "This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

    "This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

    "This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

    "This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

    "This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

    "This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

    "This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

    "This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

    "And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.


    ~SE~

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  8. thought I'd also add that given the geographic location of the HOPI, above the uranium deposits under the 3 Mesas - for the last 3000 years, in ARIZONA, the only "SEA" in the vicinity is the GULF of MEXICO.

    ~SE~

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  9. I also take it (the poster layout and the "EYE" at the HoR-I-Zone) more along the lines of "Synchronicity" and "Synchro-mysticism" than some pre-planned conspiracy.

    ~SE~

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  10. "http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38695.html">"Son (Sun?) of the Gulf" Ray Mabus appointed to Oversee Gulf Restoration

    I have a decent amount of skepticism when it comes to Nostradamus, but it's pretty hard not to wonder whether he was thinking of this former "boy of spring" in his mention of the Third Anti-Christ:

    'Mabus' then will soon die, there will come
    Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
    Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
    Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.


    Something wicked this way comes?

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  11. Wiki Trivia

    Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus had a cameo in the 7th season of NCIS, episode "Child's Play", as an NCIS agent named Ray who is beaten at a game of checkers by a child genius named Angela. He warns Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs "This kid's a ringer, watch her".

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  12. Ep. 7x09 "Child's Play"

    After the body of a Marine is discovered in a corn field, the team investigates at a military intelligence base that uses genius children to crack military codes. The team discovers that one of the children is making collages that contain codes with important military secrets in them, secrets that are being sold. A second dead body points to the woman running the organization, but when the young girl escapes from the safe house (Ducky's house) and runs home to her mother, the team must race to save her from her would-be murderer. Meanwhile, Ducky attempts to convince Gibbs and the team to spend Thanksgiving at his house, in spite of previously made plans.

    7x17 "Double Identity"

    Gibbs and the team investigate the shooting of a Marine and uncovers more to his life than anyone would have ever imagined. The Marine had been declared MIA after a reconnaissance mission in Afghanistan, somehow obtained millions of dollars, and married another woman under a false identity. The victim's commanding officer reveals that in Afghanistan, they stumbled across a money cache. The victim took the money for himself and disappeared. The team then deduces that a private investigator the commanding officer hired to find the victim was the shooter, as he intended to blackmail the victim. It is also shown that Ducky's mother has passed on, sometime in 2010.

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  13. Neat post. Still reading, but saw this and thought it was very, very synchronistic: BP films it UFO Sun G_D, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjQ7yURx-U

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  14. Horizon backwards from Z is ... Zero. From 'on' you get One. The circle and the diameter. Which is the sun on the Horizon. -sky-

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  15. "Speaking of which, remember also that a French team recently announced that they had found a submerged Mayan city not all that far from the Gulf. Would the powers-that-be engineer a disaster like this to draw attention away from a find like that, particularly if this sunken city was filled with, shall we say, seriously anomalous features? It is interesting to note that the archaeologists in question are keeping the location of this city secret."

    On the other hand, what independent verification do we have about this discovery? Looking at those photo images, it is hard to say they are reliable, nor does it appear this vast city is only 40 to 70 feet beneath the water.

    On top of that, who is this Jes Alexander?

    In the Huffington piece, it says he's the "architectural historian and archaeologist Jes Alexander, who spearheaded the research team, to get the first-hand details of what could be a piece of real-life Atlantis."

    However, He's the writer of the Herald de Paris article, it says:

    "The project team asks that for more information, or to find out how to help fund their research, please contact the Herald de Paris’ publisher, Jes Alexander, at a specially set-up telephone number: 415-738-7811."

    So it appears he did not spearhead the research team, nor is he an architectural historian or archeologist. Has anyone called that number (415 is in San Francisco, right)?


    Wait a second - here we go:

    http://www.heralddeparis.com/surprise-underwater-cities-atlantis-and-all-that-jazz/67059


    So now, I don't know what to think. There is "something" out there, he says, but apparently not anything that they took a picture of.

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  16. How many have ever heard of ROCK LAKE, Wisconsin?

    Rock Lake, Wisconsin is in a State Park called Aztalan State Park

    Wisconsin Pyramid

    Rock Lake Research Society

    Science Frontiers - The Rock Lake Pyramids


    There's always more to the story...


    ~SE~

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  17. One thing I'm particularly curious about in this Gulf Oil Disaster is not about what we've heard but about what we haven't heard...

    We've all heard the estimates of the oil flow from the Macondo Prospect/Deepwater HoRizon site, but why, on the heals of this Global Warming Fiasco, have we not heard estimates of the amount of METHANE that has been released into the atmosphere by this well since day 1???


    ~SE~

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  18. SHOOTING STARS (with LASERS!)

    The NIF aims to "bring star power to Earth" by shooting vastly amplified laser beams toward a spherical hydrogen fuel pellet.

    ( star, laser obelisk?, sphere)

    Is it just me, or does that configuration (in the linked video) look a bit like an Egyptian temple's hypostyle hall? Note also that the lab-born "star" will emerge at the apex of the pyramidal laser array.

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  19. Hi Chris, Good post. Your concerns are valid.

    Strange Eye...you made some very interesting points. Right on!

    Note the folowing:

    June 18, 2010 – EURONEXT Stock Exchange

    The NY Stock Exchange European counterpart closed trading on June 18, 2010 at:

    EURONEXT 100 - 666.01
    NEXT 150 - 1441.54
    Both of these numbers are extremely symbolic:

    666 relates to the FIFA acronym, to Alaskan coordinates and South African coordinates.

    1441 divided by 12 = 120.08 or the Fullness of Time x the Fullness of Time with inTENsity.

    Symbolically speaking, this means that the number 666 and 1441 will remain as the Summer Solstice arrives on June 20/21. Dates that use the numbers 0, 1 and 2.

    June 18 is the 60th day of the Gulf Oil Pour, and on June 24, it will be the 66th day of the Oil Pour gushing into the Gulf of Mexico. On June 24, 2010 St. Jean Baptiste Day, the Sun begins its descent from its highest point.

    This coincides with the death of Michael Jackson on June 25, 2009, and the symbolism attached which relates strongly to the Phantom, the Pirates, and the Skull and Bones.

    Also making news, and thereby, acting as added subliminal suggestion, are the names of prominent political figures:

    Jan Brewer – Governor of Arizona – a J and B name.

    Joe Barton – Fed. politician – apologizing to BP in the June 17 congressional hearing – a J and B name.

    John Boehner – Fed. politician – reacting to Barton’s apology – a J and B name.

    Joe Biden – Vice President – seizing upon Barton’s apology – a J and B name.

    These names are symbolic of the sacrificial Pillars of Boaz and Jachin, that stood in front of Solomon’s Temple. These are the J and B Pillars of Freemasonry, and are the North and South Twin Towers of the WTC complex. They also refer to the states of Oregon and Arizona, the North and South states, and to North America and South America.

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  20. There's a lot of J and B in whiskey as well. ;-)

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  21. Hey Strangeye. There was an interesting interview on Darkness on the Edge of Town radio show. You can listen to it. It was about Rock Lake Wisconsin and a gentleman who wrote a book about it. I have the links at: http://www.nightghost.ws/2009/04/lost-pyramids-of-rock-lake-wisconsin.html

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  22. Chris here is a little more information to go with the above..

    Pillers Of Boaz and Jachin

    There’s also a token column, a phallic symbol, where our little beauty, Shania, sits on top, simply to illustrate that she is a type of the Queen of Heaven.

    Columns represent royal greatness and divinity. That divinity is the power of wealth and commerce. For this reason the tallest buildings in the world were 2 columns called the World Trade Center, built in the financial district of Manhattan, New York. This was the symbolism used in front of the old Hebrew Temple, with the columns, or pillars referred to as Boaz and Jachin. Boaz and Jachin were pillars of sacrifice, situated at the Gate of the Porch to the Temple sanctuary, located just beside the Altar of Sacrifice. This is exactly the situation within the World Trade Center complex, where the sacrifice was prepared within the Pillars themselves. This is also the situation, where, in these illusory days in which we are currently experiencing the 3d illusion, the sacrifice is being prepared for the NEXT and LAST 9-11, however this time, on a massive scale that it defies comprehension from a logical, rational perspective. This site details just how massive the intended cataclysm is meant to be.

    The important symbolism attached to the Pillars of Boaz and Jachin, or Gachin, becomes almost unbelievable when you dig into the research I've seen.

    These 2 names are referred to as the B and G Pillars in Freemasonry. One example of the use of the B and G Pillars of Sacrifice was just put forward in the previous paragraph. This is how it works to establish the hypnotic Trance State within the 3D plane, even without the intended subject being aware of how they’re being used.

    BILL GATES = B and G = BAAL fertility god, GATES the 2 faced god called Janus, the keeper of Gates/Control.

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  23. In the Christian Bible it states, Matthew 24:36, 37 - “…of that day and hour knoweth no man, (when the New Messianic World Order will be set up) …but my father only (the luciferian Thinkers are the father of us all). v.37…But as the days of NOAH were, so shall also the coming of the son of man be.”

    What this Bible verse is telling us, is that when the Messiah comes, the world will be INUNDATED WITH A FLOOD just as in the days of Noah.

    The Chemtrails are helping to cause this flood, by altering the atmosphere, but the real source of this increased volume of water are the melting ice caps which are part and parcel of the Global Warming/Climate Change subliminal suggestion.

    However, it won’t take much of an increase in water volume to create a massive FLOOD and DELUGE to offer the ultimate sacrifice to the luciferian Thinkers. What’s going to transpire, is a domino effect, relating to many different parts of the world, where major earthquakes, volcano’s and extreme seismic activity, will initiate TIDAL WAVES, or TSUNAMI’S These will happen one after the other and it will look like NATURAL DISTASTERS!

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  24. @DS888

    I know you like looking at the real meaning behind the words, so try this one out...

    RECOVERY
    "I know many families have yet to feel the effects of the recovery, but rest assured it is coming"
    - Pres. 6/18/10 Columbus, OH

    RECOVERY = "WRECK OVARY"

    and what's funny is how many will dismiss this without ever actually looking into the UN's "orders" on reduced birth rates themselves.

    ~SE~

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  25. Did you click the METHANE link and read the section on ATMOSPHERIC METHANE and its effects?

    Overnight the mid-west (The Dakotas, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois) experienced **unprecedented** storm activity.

    In fact, MINnesota set a new record with 36 Tornadoes!
    Yes, that number is ** THIRTY-SIX ** TORNADOES!

    Have a peek at the weather (cloud/storm) patterns for yourself...

    USA 12 Hour loop animation

    Western Hemisphere 12 hour loop animation

    and taking it back to the "Green Sun" is this little visual meme from 2008

    You'd think, given the fact we're at 60 days of oil and methane spewing out of Momma Earth, that every hand would be welcome in the containment and cleanup of the spill... but NOPE...

    Coast Guard stops "oil vacuum barges" - abcNEWS story

    While the exact answers to these mysteries might continue to elude us, we must at least begin to ask the question "WHY?"

    "WE can never think too much, only too little."


    ~SE~

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  26. Here's some hard statistics to help you wrap your brain around this enormity of this problem...

    First let me ask who in their right mind would give such a negative name to a well expected to produce good fortune...

    "MACONDO" Prospect... a name taken from the novel "100 years of Solitude" ??

    But the original prospect reports said that there's an estimated 50 million bbls (barrels) of oil in that well location.

    If the revised estimate is 60,000 bbls per day escaping (and for the last 60 days) we can expect, if the estimates are correct, that at that rate it should flow steady for nearly 1000 days!

    Why can't it be "capped"?
    Because the escape pressure of the crude and methane is est. 465 atmospheres.
    That's between est. 7000 and 8000 PSI.

    Given that it's 5000 ft under water you can simulate by hanging a standard washer (from nuts and bolts and washers) on a string, blowing through a straw and try to lower the washer onto the very end of straw while you continue to blow...

    (and that's roughly only 15-20 psi generated by your breath !)

    ~SE~

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  27. Hi -SE-

    Right ON! Excellent.

    How about the date to...

    I have to laugh, this is too fuuny and not necssarily in a good way. I get a strange sense when I see these number...6/18/10

    6

    MILK 88 = the Mothers BREASTS
    COW = WOC = ROCK
    666 = SICKS SICKS SICKS

    18 = 9+9 9 = fall or
    18 = 8+10
    8 = control 10 = intensity

    10 = intensity

    I'll come back to Columbus OH at another time.

    Below is the letter "C". Thoth you might like this.

    The Letter C – See – Sea – Sesame Street

    The letter C is yet another All Seeing Eye symbol.

    It is pronounced SEE. The shape is the eye observed from the side with the pupil opening to the right. This is symbolizing the light or knowledge of the world coming in and going out. Of course, we’ve been taught that when the light enters the pupil it hits the back of the eye and is flipped upside down or reversed.

    This is one source of inspiration where reversed symbolism is drawn from in luciferian Thought Process. By the time the optic signal reaches the brain it, supposedly has it turned right side up again. This is also the inspiration behind the source of the Freemason slogan, Order Out Of Chaos. They perpetuate chaos in the world, where none existed, only to take total control and re-establish order in accordance with the luciferian Mindset agenda. This is why the All Seeing Eye is such a significant symbol in Freemasonry, Catholicism, and the like.

    :) DS888

    P.S lol...my word verif for post is "looker".

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  28. -SE-, and...

    18 = 2x9 or 2 (duality)twin towers and 9 for the fall

    or 18 = 1+8 = 9
    or 18 = 2x9 - 2+9 = 11 = DEATH

    Hmmm think there are any coincidences here? :)

    D*

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  29. @DS888

    6/18/10!! = 1.618 PHI or the golden ratio

    PHI = PH or HP thusly the Wizarding World of 'H'arry 'P'otter opened at DISNEY today.


    Columba (columbidae) 'the DOVE'.

    and interesting with today's Obama speech on the RA/RECOVERY ACT (ACT = a part of a play or script) that EMINEM (M&M) also released "RECOVERY" on i-Tunes today! (full cd release everywhere on 6/21 !)


    ~SE~

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  30. Chris,
    Great post! I'm so glad you're touching on the Green sun again - I had actually gone back a few months ago and reread those posts because they were on my mind after rewatching StarGate. Now I know why it seemed so suddenly important to me then. Interesting that the military considers the nuclear option in both the movie and the BP spill.

    Something I want you to consider: The BP logo has the yellow sun emerging out of the green sun (Transition from Ra's rule to Aeon of Horus?) But there is a third, white sun, coming out of that. Chew that over and let me know what you come up with.


    And lastly, you should enjoy this: the 17th team to join Canada's major league soccer association changed its logo from a wave to a doubled three pyramid design.

    http://allthehappycreatures.blogspot.com/2010/06/underwater-pyramids-of-vancouvers-17th.html

    And in their promo video, they have the bottom three appear underwater. Fascinating.

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  31. Am I the only one who sees what appears to be a dragon in the oil skim from the aerial shot in the first photo on this post? Or some other sea creature?

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  33. (forgot the link)

    17!!!

    CEO of BP Tony Hayward sold £1.4 million of his shares (about 30%) on March 17th.

    Also see the Red Ice link posted on 6-17.

    The movie Knowing predicts Gulf Oil Well disaster!

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  34. "As of June 18, 2010 SEVENTEEN members of the European Union Parliament, led by Italian EU MP Mario Borghezi, have reportedly signed and tabled a “Written declaration on the declassification of documentation on UFOs” calling on member states to disclose documents relating to UFOs, and end UFO secrecy."

    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2010/06/eu-mp-mario-borghezi-bilderberger-foe-introduces-eu-parliament-declaration-to-end-ufoet-secrecy.html

    Jim

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  35. Purdue University's Steve Wereley, so oft seen on CNN lately, has now explained the "60,000 bbls per day" estimated flow rate from the Macondo Prospect/Deepwater HoRizon marine well site ...

    He said that the number comes from the estimate that only about 20 percent (20%) to 30 percent (30%) of what they are witnessing coming out of the well head by video is actually crude.

    Professor Wereley says the other 80% is comprosed mostly METHANE!

    That statement, using the 80% and 20% estimates makes the TOTAL (Methane and Crude Oil flow) combined to 300,000 bbls per day !!

    Simply put, that's means 240,000 bbls of METHANE escaping the well each day!

    For the math-challenged...
    That's 14,400,000 bbls of METHANE thus far from day 1 to day 60!

    14,400,000 bbls (42 gallons per bbls/barrel) is roughly 605,000,000 (605 million) GALLONS of METHANE escaped to date!


    ~SE~

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  36. Professor Wereley also went on to state that the pressures involved at the well head makes it extremely dangerous and almost impossible to cap. He stated that capping the already sub-sea-floor fractured well tubes would result in a "catastrophic blowout into the surrounding strata"...(read as "Shitstorm of Biblical proportions"!! )

    ~SE~

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  37. SE,

    Richard Hoagland predicted on Coast to Coast that there would be a "catastrophic" event from an explosion brought about by a 20mile + "gas bubble" on the ocean floor in the Gulf.

    Also, note the "14,400,000" number you posted above. Isn't "144" number pattern significant? Giza? Sacred Geometry?

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  38. While we're trying to figure out the "meaning" of the symbols being used, the people are being robbed blind.

    Disaster profiteering in the Gulf
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2010/06/400425.shtml

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  39. @Anony 8:49

    I know that for years scientists have said that the "Bermuda Triangle" might in fact be methane outgassing.

    And I'm concerned by the fact that BP is RIGHT NOW ramping up in the Canadian Rocky Mtns with a coalbed METHANE drilling op (Mist Mountain, BC).

    Maybe these criminals were never looking for the oil in the Macondo Prospect but were instead after the methane deposit!

    Wouldn't that beat all!

    But back to the idea of a 20+ mile METHANE bubble...

    Back in the late 90's and early 2000's on GLP there were predictions about just such a scenario!

    And I'm a little unerved hear talk of "CAT astrophe" in the "Year of the TIGER"

    We all saw what happened to the other "Tiger" because of unchecked lust and greed...

    Isn't it odd that "Green" is the original color of "lust and greed"?

    Odd as well that "EUPORIA" (greek) is one of the "HORAE" and the word also means "lust for wealth"

    ~SE~

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  40. "Would the powers-that-be engineer a disaster like this to draw attention away from a find like that..."

    I'm fairly certain that would be an extremely inefficient way of creating a diversion. Destroy the entire Gulf of Mexico and the Gulf coast of the United States so we won't find out about some mysterious artifacts?

    Come on now people, everything that happens isn't an engineered conspiracy. This is a man-made tragedy and fuck-up of epic proportions caused by the mega-wealthy and their careless disregard for anything but their own selfish needs and desires.

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  41. You realize that you're freaking out about a single line of blue-sky spec that has nothing to do with the post, right? But to answer your question if something was found that put 2000 years of social programming in jeopardy, I think everything would be on the table.

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  42. Efficiency is not the main motivator per se. Expense is irrelevant. Effectiveness is the only thing that matters. There is no limit of the extent some will go to maintain control or piggy back a tragedy (to shove cap and trade down our throats?). Just like 9-11 was not about 1 thing, neither is this event. It seems to have won our attention, so it has effectively done the majority of it's work. We're not talking about Twinkies right now are we? Engineered human error? Maybe. Let's keep our eyes open to the possibilities.

    Disaster and media are effective. We may recall what V said: "The building is a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbol is given power by people. Alone a symbol is meaningless, but with enough people, blowing up a building (or an oil well) can change the world."

    BP had foreknowledge of impending doom


     

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  43. @Chris,

    Are you saying that if something was found in the Gulf to jeopardize the '2000 years of social programming' that the "THEY" would go to nearly ANY lengths to keep it under wraps...

    ie: engineering an eco-disaster that could potentially threaten all life in a large portion of the Western hemisphere, if not the World, simply to maintain and/or strengthen "their" control structures?

    To that thinking I have one question (actually many - but let's start with one)...

    Who is "THEY"?


    ~SE~

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  44. @Chris,

    you do of course realize that your last sentence (in @2:30AM comment) is expressing that you believe that some unknown group has been controlling every aspect of life on this planet to the minutiae for 2000 years?!?

    That's like the great-grand daddy of all conspiracy theories - the eye on top the pyramid, so to speak!

    I got to tell you, I never knew you felt that way.

    Interesting idea... but, as experimentation has repeatedly shown, the human mind, when collectively channeled has the potential to act on the physical (material) makeup of the UNIVERSE.

    If that be the case, then would not WE in fact be "the THEY" that your sentence expresses as existing? And all things a result of that collective mind potential acting on the reflecting mirror that is the physical UNIVERSE?


    ~SE~

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  45. An old radio preacher was known for his prophesy about something very much like this. My Mother went to the Bible College he founded in Arizona (Miracle Valley).

    http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/skylark1/page9.html

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  46. Christopher Knowles said..."if something was found that put 2000 years of social programming in jeopardy, I think everything would be on the table."

    It has already been found Chris and all of Humanity is on the TABLE...literally, for Sacrifice, not speaking in metaphors. Going from 6.8 Billion to 500 Million takes a little planning and it at the table now.

    People like Strange Eye & myself, and many others talk about the illusions, the NWO, the lies and the deceit, all the time. The mass HYPNOSIS that people are not aware of. People just think we are giving another "perspective" or a different "tranlastion" to symbloic meaning! Not the case. We are actually (SE hope you don't mind in the we part here) trying to share with people, the significance of the symbolism & signs. They are actual WARNINGS of what to come. This not to FEAR monger, but to have people be aware of what's going on in the World. More importantly, what is to come in the next few years.

    I have many answers...but people just don't want to listen or ask the tough questions to seek real truth, because it's difficult & differnet knowledge than they already know. Fear of the unknown sets in & not wanting to change!

    The truth about how we are in a MATRIX can be shown. We are called a person, a Strawman Illusion, we are in bondage by our own government. We are not free human beings as we think we are. We are corporate entities (corporation) that's bonded at birth by the Corportation of The United States.

    Admitting to the possiblity that things like, "WE DIDN'T go to the Moon" is hard for people to believe. I have never seen proof as to how they could get passed the VanAllen Radiation Belt without being dead or certainly getting radiation posioning? I have seen a few of the space capsules in museums. You could tell the capsules were not well shielded at all. I don't know how that damn things could stayed together during lauch...actually some didn't serveral times as I recall.

    The point here, there are lots of truths out there. truth that expalins it all and changes everything for you. It has changed my thinking, my understanding, my awareness. The knowledge has destroyed everything I've known. It's a rebirth. (NO I NOT A BORN AGAIN) Realizing I have only known things by looking through rose-coloured glasses and believing everthing taught to me by society. NOT ANYMORE!

    D*

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  47. @DS888,
    nah, I don't mind... but I would clarify for you and everyone else that the battle I choose to fight is the internal transmutation of the negativity.
    Sounds odd, I know!
    But that's the only fight there really is in this world.
    By transmuting the energies and raising your own vibration and awareness, through the very simple fact that everything in the UNIVERSE is connected (as everything in the UNIVERSE is really only ONE THING), you are able, simply through work on your own self to raise the vibration, awareness, understanding, etc..etc.. of everyone else.

    see the 4/17/2010 "Science of Synchromysticism" Strange Eye blog post for a physics example that does a great job illustrating what I'm saying.

    In order to begin to transmute internally you first need awareness, (so "good on Ya, DS888!"), and everyone else who takes the time to share what they see in our world.


    ~SE~

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  48. And for those who read that and don't get it - I have this for you to ponder -

    are the leaves any less THE TREE than the bark?


    ~SE~

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  49. The leaves are more tree than the bark, but less tree than the wood.

    About even with the roots.

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  50. At the same time, you also have to take into consideration that when the leaves fall off a tree, then they aren't tree at all.

    They're just leaves.

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  51. And sometimes its not leaves at all but a bunch of dried-up old poop.

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  52. "We are corporate entities (corporation) that's bonded at birth by the Corportation of The United States."

    True, but that's nothing new. The Empire Never Ended. It's no different than Rome or Egypt etc. Nobody's ever truly "free." You're a slave to the laws of the society you live in. And if you choose to live as a hermit in the wilderness, you're a slave to the laws of nature. It ain't a conspiracy, it's just life on planet earth.

    To quote Terrence McKenna, the truth is that NOBODY is in control. Conspiracy theory is a bedtime story.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubDnEWHkjBc

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  53. Seen this? 17 nations barred from whaling vote

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/22/2933768.htm?section=justin

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  54. That sorta reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's basic disregard of the supernatural when he was making The Shining. When asked about it, he said that he thought ghost stories were basically optimistic since they implied some sort of survival after death. If a ghost killed you then it would simply lose its advantage over you.

    The implication of a conspiracy is that at least someone is in control. I mean, the strange thing about conspiracy theorists is that they are fighting the conspiracy. If you truly believed someone had this much power, why not join up?

    Obviously, it is the reality of powerlessness and living in a world that is essentially out of control that drives some people to project a nigh-omnipotent and naturally malevolent conspiracy responsible.

    On the other hand, I am generally pleased with the idea of a temporal, ever-changing world out of control, so that could be affecting my perception in regard to some overwhelming top-down control system.

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  55. i think this gulf leak has heavy atlantis themes running through it. the shuttle of the same name made it's final mission around the time of the sinking of deepwater horizon and now proposals are being put forward to go nuclear in an effort to cap the leak, thereby creating a second sun (lucifer) underwater - echoing arthur c clarke's book 2010 : the year we make contact.

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  56. One thing I just noticed about the new BP logo above,is the old logo had a capital B & P,whereas the new logo has a small b & p...which is quite symbolic really,because if you were to flip the stem of the "b" straight down,then you would have a "p",which in essence would mean
    "as above,so below".
    Would it not?

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