Stranger Things: The Upside Down World

I've finished my Stranger Things rewatch and have been mulling over all the various possibilities as to what it's really trying to tell us. Interviews with the credited creators (the Duffer Brothers) haven't told me much, especially since they've given a couple different stories as to how they came up with the story in the first place.

But there are a number of producers and writers involved in the series, at least one of whom has an interesting iMDb page, so I'm not sure if the twins themselves are my final go-to for the inside scoop.

It's interesting that the brothers would be so fixated on popcult ephemera that was popular before they were born, but not particularly unusual. I do sense the heavy hand of other players in the actual rendering of the series, but that's the way things go too. Stranger Things is period drama when all is said and done, a time-tested genre if ever there was one.

Gordon and I have been batting the whole "limited hangout" concept back and forth here, given that it leans so heavily on MK Ultra history and lore. 

My initial reaction was whitewash, in that it was saying "Hey, MK Ultra wasn't so bad; some hippies got some free acid and we were just trying to create some superheroes anyway. And look at Eleven- ain't she a badass?"

MK Ultra honcho Ewan Cameron didn't use sensory deprivation so kids like Eleven could remote view Russian spies, he used it to try to erase their brains. 

This is where MK Ultra starts to fictionally bleed into programs like Grillflame and Stargate, a crossover TV writers seem particularly fond of. But MK and RV programs shouldn't be conflated like that, even if there were strands of connections  amongst some of the players (it all fell under the same aegis, ultimately). 

This is particularly important since Eleven is made to identify her tormentor Brenner as her father, a practice that Cameron encouraged amongst his own victims.

That being said, it's worth noting Dustin's t-shirt in the later episodes of the series, advertising the "Castroville Artichoke Festival." 

For those of you who don't know, Castroville is in Northern California, smack dab in the corridor that runs through San Francisco, Palo Alto, Silicon Valley and Big Sur, where so much of the experimentation on RV and psi fictionalized in Stranger Things actually took place. This location hardly seems coincidental.

Nor does the "artichoke" reference. More on that shortly.

Another case of overlapping magisteria is a theme I haven't seen a lot of reviewers pick up on. And that's that Stranger Things is, among everything else, an alien-abduction narrative

The flower-faced ghoul is abducting its targets and ostensibly using them as incubators, as we saw in the second Aliens film. Several of the episodes open with shots of the starry sky, just begging for (further) E.T. comparisons, and others open with the aftermath of abductions.

Given the parallel dimension theme at work here it's worth noting that being the DMT trials done in the 1980s (arguably a descendant of MK Ultra, after a fashion), often featured disturbingly consistent reports of humanoid entities. Given its concretization of the ethereal dimensional realm posited in these trials, it's worth noting this feature in Stranger Things.
One common feature of the hallucinogenic experience caused by DMT are hallucinations of humanoid beings, characterized as being otherworldly. The term Machine Elf was coined by ethnobotanist Terence McKenna for the experience, who also used the terms fractal elves, or self-transforming machine elves.  
Hallucinations of strange creatures had been reported by Szara in the Journal of Mental Science (now the British Journal of Psychiatry) (1958) “Dimethyltryptamine Experiments with Psychotics”, Stephen Szara described how one of his subjects under the influence of DMT had experienced “strange creatures, dwarves or something” at the beginning of a DMT trip.  
Other researchers of the experience described 'entities' or 'beings' in humanoid as well as animal form, with descriptions of "little people" being common (non-human gnomes, elves, imps etc.). This form of hallucination has been speculated to be the cause of alien abduction experiences through endogenously occurring DMT. 
The frequency and consistency of the manifestations of these beings caused Dr. Rick Strassman, who was running one of the programs, to discontinue the trials.
Several factors led to the cessation of the New Mexico research. The biomedical model was increasingly intrusive and dehumanizing, and it was difficult recruiting new volunteers for these studies...(a) graduate student caused inordinate problems acting out–taking drugs with volunteers after hours, and undermining me when I told him to stop. Hoped for colleagues did not arrive, and in fact began setting up their own foundations competing for scarce resources and colleagues. Long-term benefits were meager, and adverse effects were adding up. The frequency of “being-contact” was unexpected and personally disorienting.- Rick Strassman, DMT: The Spirit Molecule synopsis
Now, think about it: does anyone seriously believe that such encounters didn't manifest during MK Ultra as well? Given the grab-bag of pharmaceuticals used, often in combination and often in extremely high doses, I'd bet these, uh, encounters were quite common indeed.

If that was the case, isn't it fair to assume that increasing, facilitating or exploiting such encounters didn't become a goal, or perhaps one of the primary goals, of the program? (MK Ultra was a lot weirder and more insane than a lot of people assume- the truly nasty wetwork was handled by its sister programs).

If so, you would naturally want to work with children, who might not only be more susceptible to the effects of hallucinogens, but who would also be able to endogenously produce chemicals like DMT as well

Perhaps this is exactly why so much work was done on children- in hospitals- during the MK Ultra years. 

And before and after as well.

In my rewatch I noticed an attempt to tell a parallel story, one that almost felt like a tale told out of school. It felt less like escapist entertainment and more like a real-life horror, of a local boy abducted on the order of an insane government doctor to carry on with his experiments when his primary subject (Eleven) escapes.

Will enters into the parallel world of hallucination, induced fever, drugs and madness that Eleven escaped. And the doctor, like any typical sadist, allows him to contact his mother on occasion to ramp up the terror and anxiety. Only in this case he does so with the hopes that such heightened emotional states will accelerate the process and produce more of the desired psychic results.

The generic government installation seemed like a trope, but in fact what we were seeing was a replay of the experimentation on children and marginal populations that took place during the MK Ultra/Etc years. Work done with electroshock therapy, drugs and perhaps even more exotic technologies.

Meaning work done in hospitals.

We see Eleven dressed in a hospital robe, which would be unnecessary if she were in some random DoE hideaway (pajamas would have done just as well) and we see orderlies dressed in hospital whites, rather than military tans or blues. 

I don't want to read too much in this series- the symbols are fairly blunt and blatant- but this reads like signaling to me.

Hopper and Joyce enter through the rather vaginal dimensional rift to search for will, and here we get our biggest eyefull of the Vale of Shadows, the nightmare alternate dimension in which Will is trapped.

That Will's ordeal is a metaphor for his own Cameron-like repatterning under an MK Ultra protocol seems fairly obvious by the fact that the monster's nest is found in the (upside down) library, where Hopper and Powell first stumble upon all of the information on the Hawkins lab and Brenner's connections to MK Ultra.

This isn't the most subtle kind of allegorizing I've ever seen, but given the target audience I don't think an overabundance of subtlety would serve the purpose.

Will is found with a disturbingly phallic tuber inserted deep into his larynx, and the entire scene is an obvious homage to the breeding nest in Aliens. I'm not sure if this was by accident or design but there's an interesting sync with James Cameron's nest being used as a metaphor for Ewan Cameron's house of mind control horrors in Montreal, especially considering that the former is also Canadian.

The Duffer Brothers use crosscutting- a film school 101 technique- to signal to us that Will's ordeal is to be identified with Hopper's daughter's ordeal when she was dying of leukemia. Whether or not they themselves intended to identify Will's captivity as a metaphor for hard-knuckle MK repatterning is open to debate.

Although the kind of experimentation that Stranger Things depicts is either dismissed, downplayed or otherwise excused, the reality of medical experimentation on children in America is real, grim and much, much worse than anything Hollywood screenwriters can dream up.

One of "America's own Josef Mengele's" is a woman many hail as a hero, Dr. Lauretta Bender, seen as a pioneer in the field of psychiatry. 

What goes unmentioned in her mainstream hagiographies is her long, brutal and heartless experimentation on children in hospitals, particularly some of our most vulnerable and marginalized children. 
From early 1940 to 1953, Dr. Lauretta Bender, a highly respected child neuropsychiatrist practicing at Bellevue Hospital in New York City, experimented extensively with electroshock therapy on children who had been diagnosed with "autistic schizophrenia." In all, it has been reported that Bender administered electroconvulsive therapy to at least 100 children ranging in age from three years old to 12 years, with some reports indicating the total may be twice that number. One source reports that, inclusive of Bender's work, electroconvulsive treatment was used on more than 500 children at Bellevue Hospital from 1942 to 1956, and then at Creedmoor State Hospital Children's Service from 1956 to 1969. 
Despite publicly claiming good results with electroshock treatment, privately Bender said she was seriously disappointed in the aftereffects and results shown by the subject children. Indeed, the condition of some of the children appeared to have only worsened.
This is torture. Let's make no mistake about it. Administering shock treatment to three year-old children is torture.

When MK-Ultra came to town, Dr. Bender was an eager participant, administering the drug to children, all under the age of 11. 


Is that in fact the real significance of the name?
In 1960, Dr. Bender launched her first experiments with LSD and children. They were conducted within the Children's Unit, Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens, New York. The LSD she used was supplied by Dr. Rudolph P. Bircher of the Sandoz Pharmaceutical Company. (Dr. Bircher also provided Bender with UML-491, also a Sandoz-produced product, very much like LSD but sometimes "dreamier" in effect and longer lasting.) Her initial group of young subjects consisted of 14 children diagnosed schizophrenic, all under the age of 11.
She soon found kindred spirits to assist and finance her work, which lasted into the 1970s.
Shortly after deciding to initiate her own LSD experiments on children, Bender attended a conference sponsored by a CIA front group, the Josiah Macy Foundation... A few short months after the Macy Foundation conference, Dr. Bender was notified that her planned LSD experiments would be partially and surreptitiously funded by the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology (SIHE), another CIA front group then located in Forest Hills, New York.
And again, we're dealing with a nexus of spooks and the spooky- a witch's brew of spies, psi, Satanists, saucer-chasers, and many stranger players still. These people were after something, something that you couldn't find in a science textbook.
The Society, headed by James L. Monroe, a former US Air Force officer who had worked on top-secret psychological warfare and propaganda projects, oversaw about 55 top-secret experiments underwritten by the CIA. These projects involved LSD, ESP, black magic, astrology, psychological warfare, media manipulation, and other subjects.

Now as to the Montauk Project, the ostensible inspiration behind Stranger Things.

I've revealed that my grandfather worked on the real Montauk Project, the SAGE radar system that is in many ways the precursor to the modern Internet. After that he went into black projects, so I don't know what he worked on.

I also talked about my most vivid childhood memories being these horrible nightmares, most of which resemble abduction accounts. The first one I listed in my post was this:
World's End: One of the earliest ones didn't include the lightning, though. My parents are still together, but this might be a wish-dream. I'm probably about 4 or 5. We're going to World's End Park in Hingham to fly kites. But my family leaves me in the car and disappear. I'm sitting in the backseat, alone and afraid. Then the car starts by itself, is put into gear and drives, while I scream for my mother. 
Bonus factoid: World's End was originally tapped to become the site of the United Nations building in 1945 before the site on the East River was chosen.
That's one hell of a dream for a five year-old to have, picking that particular site for such a harrowing scenario.

Because World's End clearly has a connection to the Cryptocracy, given its shortlisting for the UN site. But in my research I found it was also across the street from an old Nike Missile site, one which housed a large pediatric practice as well.

What exactly is the significance of Nike Missile sites?

Well, they tie us directly into the nexus of Bell Laboratories and Lucifer's Technologies, but more importantly there's a paper trail on the use of old Nike sites and human experimentation, particularly on children, taking us right up to the doormat of the MK-Ultra Complex, ringing the doorbell of the infamous Louis Jolyon West:
 After January 11, 1973, when Governor Reagan announced plans for the Violence Center, West wrote a letter to the then Director of Health for California, J. M. Stubblebine. 
"Dear Stub: 
"I am in possession of confidential information that the Army is prepared to turn over Nike missile bases to state and local agencies for non-military purposes. They may look with special favor on health-related applications. 
"Such a Nike missile base is located in the Santa Monica Mountains, within a half-hour's drive of the Neuropsychiatric Institute. It is accessible, but relatively remote. The site is securely fenced, and includes various buildings and improvements, making it suitable for prompt occupancy. 
"If this site were made available to the Neuropsychiatric Institute as a research facility, perhaps initially as an adjunct to the new Center for the Prevention of Violence, we could put it to very good use. Comparative studies could be carried out there, in an isolated but convenient location, of experimental or model programs for the alteration of undesirable behavior. 
"Such programs might include control of drug or alcohol abuse, modification of chronic anti-social or impulsive aggressiveness, etc. The site could also accommodate conferences or retreats for instruction of selected groups of mental-health related professionals and of others (e.g., law enforcement personnel, parole officers, special educators) for whom both demonstration and participation would be effective modes of instruction. 
"My understanding is that a direct request by the Governor, or other appropriate officers of the State, to the Secretary of Defense (or, of course, the President), could be most likely to produce prompt results."
What exactly did West have in mind for this remote, fortified installation? 
 Some of the planned areas of study for the Center included:  
• Studies of violent individuals. 

• Experiments on prisoners from Vacaville and Atascadero, and hyperkinetic children. 
• Experiments with violence-producing and violent inhibiting drugs. 

Hormonal aspects of passivity and aggressiveness in boys.
• Studies to discover and compare norms of violence among various ethnic groups. 

• Studies of pre-delinquent children.
• It would also encourage law enforcement to keep computer files on pre-delinquent children, which would make possible the treatment of children before they became delinquents.
 Prisoners from state penitentiaries were chosen as subjects, as well as economically-disadvantage youths, primarily boys (kind of like Will Byers, you might say):
The purpose of the Violence Center was not just research. The staff was to include sociologists, lawyers, police officers, clergymen and probation officers. With the backing of Governor Reagan and Dr. Brian, West had secured guarantees of prisoner volunteers from several California correctional institutions, including Vacaville. 
Vacaville and Atascadero were chosen as the primary sources for the human guinea pigs. These institutions had established a reputation, by that time, of committing some of the worst atrocities in West Coast history. Some of the experimentations differed little from what the Nazis did in the death camps.
Here's an example:
Vacaville also administered a "terror drug" Anectine as a way of "suppressing hazardous behavior." In small doses, Anectine serves as a muscle relaxant; in huge does, it produces prolonged seizure of the respiratory system and a sensation "worse than dying".  
This may not have been performed under the aegis of MK-Ultra at all. 

Remember Dustin's shirt? Well, there was a program that was even worse than MKU, more brutal, more ruthless. And one of its magic tricks was erasing memory, using different drugs in combination to induce states of amnesia and dissociation:

Project ARTICHOKE was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from Project BLUEBIRD on August 20, 1951, run by the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence.   
The project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals including LSD, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects. 
ARTICHOKE was a mind control program that gathered information together with the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self-preservation?"  
Project Artichoke was the Central Intelligence Agency’s secret code name for carrying out in-house and overseas experiments using LSD, hypnosis, and total isolation as a form of physiological harassment for special interrogations on human subjects. 
The subjects who left this project were fogged with amnesia, resulting in faulty and vague memories of the experience.

CIA director Richard Helms claimed ARTICHOKE became MK-Ultra, but perhaps that was because most of the MKU files had been destroyed, conveniently. Two birds with one stone.
It could well be that ARTICHOKE didn't become anything else at all but kept right on truckin', right on over to Vacaville and the Santa Monica Mountain range. 

And keeps on truckin' still.  
Given the work done with inducing amnesia under ARTICHOKE it's worth noting that Louis Jolyon West, along with other CIA scientists and assets and flat-out pedophiles, served on the board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, a loathsome outfit that the media continues to try to rehabilitate.

So why Nike Missile sites? There were all kinds of places in which this work could have been done. 

What's so special about them?

Well, remember that the Montauk Project- the real one and the disinfo version thereof- focus on the use of radar. And that radar seems to have a lot to do with UFOs and all the rest of the high weirdness in the catalog. A missile site would come equipped with radar equipment and all other kinds of exotic technologies.

And as Gordon talks about in his new post, a Nike site would also have all kinds of exotic shielding as well, providing an environment that could screen out all of the various forms of electromagnetic pollution that modern life is plagued with. 

Quoting the ubiquitous Andrija Puharich:
“When you’re inside [a Faraday cage], a psychic, for example, has their performance increased by a thousand fold. A Faraday cage shields you from the electromagnetic radio waves, allowing only extremely low frequency (E.L.F.) magnetic waves to get through. I don’t think there’s a psychic warfare research lab that doesn’t make use of them today.” This observation of the Faraday was supported by [Edgar] Mitchell. Mitchell also stated that “the brain waves of two individuals separated and isolated by a Faraday cage could be synchronised […] Somehow there seemed to be some sort of communication occurring between the two that we didn’t know was possible.”...once a brain is no longer bathed in electromagnetic radio waves, but isolate it from that “dirt”, the brain becomes “psychic”. That’s quite something, not?
So if brains become psychic when they're not being bathed in electromagnetic radio waves, what happens when they're constantly bombarded with Wifi and cell radiation and the thousands of other signals constantly beaming through our bodies? 


So did MK Ultra really end or has it cleaned up its act and gotten a better PR presentation? We're hearing a lot of talk about the new research being done in the field of hallucinogens but how exactly is this different from the old research? 

It has to be said that a lot of the MK Ultra field work was done in controlled environments, under the supervision of trained professionals and didn't seem to do a great deal of harm to some of its subjects. Was it merely the acceptable public face of the program? If so, can the same be said of the new hallucinogenic trials?
Together with revelations of unethical activities of psychiatric researchers under contract to military intelligence and the CIA, the highly publicized and controversial behaviors of hallucinogen enthusiasts led to the repression of efforts to formally investigate these substances. For the next twenty-five years research with hallucinogens assumed pariah status within academic psychiatry, virtually putting an end to formal dialogue and debate. 
In the early '90s, Nichols was at a scientific meeting telling a story he had told a million times: It's too bad there's not any clinical research, research with human subjects, with psychedelics. "You could do it, but you need private money." He decided he could find that private money, even though he didn't have the medical degree necessary to do clinical research himself. Along with Grob and others, he founded the Heffter Research Institute in 1993 to do legitimate, rigorous scientific research on psychedelics.

So what changed? According to Nichols, now an adjunct professor at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, there wasn't an abrupt change in regulations, but just a slow shift in attitudes. "For many years when [the FDA] got a protocol to study psychedelics in humans, they just put it on a shelf somewhere."
What did change? "A slow shift in attitudes?" I don't know if that's exactly compelling.

Is there a new generation of Frankensteins out there, experimenting on children in secret laboratories? Sounds like lunatic paranoid delusion, right? Well, it does until you realize that these Frankensteins would have no shortage of subjects to work on.
At least 10,000 unaccompanied child refugees have disappeared after arriving in Europe, according to the EU’s criminal intelligence agency. Many are feared to have fallen into the hands of organised trafficking syndicates. 
In the first attempt by law enforcement agencies to quantify one of the most worrying aspects of the migrant crisis, Europol’s chief of staff told the Observer that thousands of vulnerable minors had vanished after registering with state authorities. 
Brian Donald said 5,000 children had disappeared in Italy alone, while another 1,000 were unaccounted for in Sweden. He warned that a sophisticated pan-European “criminal infrastructure” was now targeting refugees.
There are fears being aired in the German press that these children are being used for organ harvesting so I think a new wave of human experimentation isn't exactly outside the bounds of possibility here. 

Especially given the fact that a new version would almost certainly be entirely privatized and therefore unaccountable to any pesky legislators or regulators. If such animals even still exist.

And even in America, there are thousands of unaccompanied, unaccounted children entering the country. Once they enter the netherworld of traffickers and their fellow travelers, it's anyone's guess where they ultimately end up. 

It's a chilling thought.

So if an argument could be made that Stranger Things is a limited hangout, it would be to assure its viewers that all of these programs- MK, RV, you name it- are all a thing of the past. 

What do you think?

This recent ad on Craig's List put out a call for a study on "intuition," a weasel word for psi. It's sponsored by the Office of Naval Research.

I think it's safe to say the work continues.  


  1. "The project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals including LSD, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects." A different twist on this is in a show called "Mr. Robot" which might be worth looking at for the mental comparisons. I haven't seen all the episodes but the depictions of the effects of induced states is disturbing and fascinating.

    1. Yes, that's my next bingewatch. Thanks for bringing that up.

  2. Hey Chris,

    The angels, the real angels, are cheering you. This is excellent, sober and balanced work. This information needs to get out there in the public consciousness, for obvious reasons.

    My X Files fanfic, especially the uncompleted finale, contains many of the themes you’ve explored here. My story imagines a fictional CIA child-snatching operation codenamed ‘Bedtime’ - conducted behind covert counterinsurgencies occurring during the Guatemalan Civil War. While fictionalised, I based this narrative on real facts. In my fanfic it’s revealed the operation is a recruitment drive of sorts for an MKU-inspired black project to create a weaponized lucid dreamer.

    While that aspect of my fanfic is complete fantasy I have no doubt that children, many of them homeless street kids, were kidnapped in very much this way for various PSI-related black projects. The connection between missing children and South American counterinsurgencies is something that I believe bears further scrutiny. But it’s much bigger than that, unfortunately.

    I’ll happily risk my credibility here and state that illegal human testing, especially on children and especially as related to PSI phenomena, is something that has occurred in various places across the globe, and continues still. Yes, human trafficking networks also factor heavily into this godawful equation. Yeah, we’re talking about the sexual slavery of children being connected to classified government/private research.

    This is no real surprise to those who know their history and aren’t afraid of becoming cognizant of more sinister connections. MK and Artichoke and other related abominations weren’t spun out of whole cloth during the Cold War or even the post-WW2 political climate. There are precedents for these kinds of interests even back when science was in its infancy during the latter half of the 19th century. Back when occultism and rationalism were still vying for supremacy within the Victorian imagination, children were of special import to certain groups.

    I’m not talking about the usual Illuminati child-sacrifice nonsense peddled by alt-media. I’m talking about something far more nuanced but no less sinister, brutal or terrifying. I’m talking MKU-type interest in the consciousness of children, and its potential weaponization, back when the industrial revolution was still remaking society. Interest from various military, scientific and occult underground networks.

    Little has changed, in my opinion. The tech has simply gotten better, and not even all that much. Really, it’s the lo-fi barbarity of this stuff that horrifies me the most. Torture and drug-cocktails in the 1890s is little different to the methods employed by MK or Artichoke. Even the late Victorian period had its own psychedelic scene, of sorts.

    That said, there was definitely something that changed during the 20th century. I’m not suggesting here that this is all one indivisible conspiracy stretching back into the eighteen hundreds, because that’s not how these things work. There are tensions, fractures and politics within any alliance or network of alliances whose business it is to keep secrets.

    I’m merely suggesting that there are antecedents to these things. What you describe so deftly in this post, Chris, is definitely its own thing with its own contexts and realpolitik, but similar interests were explored in embryonic form before the twentieth century.

    Of course, I can’t prove any of this. Half the time I can’t even bear to look at it. This post had me quite emotional, to be honest. Thank you for having the courage to even tackle these themes, and for doing it in such a sober, even-handed fashion. I’d advise first-time readers of this kind of material to make the effort to click on and read the links that you’ve taken the time to compile in this post.

    Thanks for being a continual voice of lucidity amidst a cacophony of bullshit, Chris.


    1. Well, like I said I have a terrible feeling the new generation of Mengeles have a fresh and seemingly endless source of guinea pigs to work on. And the Ted Heaths have a fresh source of victims for their own uses. History is not done with us, not by a long shot. And given how the situation in Europe is all being orchestrated to maximize polarization along ethnic and religious dividing lines you won't see a lot of outcry in a few years from now. And that's assuming the media ever even reports on it, which is increasingly unlikely. I have a feeling the work hasn't even begun.

  3. I find it rather ironic that it was considered building a nuclear power plant on World's End.
    "In the mid 1960s, Boston Edison considered building a nuclear power plant on World's End, but instead built the Pilgrim Nuclear Generating Station 25 miles (40 km) to the south."
    And as a personal sync I've been watching the Simon Pegg DVD 'The World's End' where the main character Garry King (Pegg)starts his quest from a hospital support group (after a failed suicide attempt) to get the lads (his school boyhood friends) back together to conquer "The Golden Mile" of pubs ending at 'The World's End' pub, which they failed to do when first leaving school.
    We find out throughout the movie that the town and pubs have been taken over by aliens replacing most of the town-folk of New Haven with blue-blooded alien robots.
    Also interesting is that Simon Pegg stars in the latest Star Trek movie as Scotty, but not only that Pegg co-wrote the script of that last film, as well.
    I'm actually working on a post about 'The World's End' movie using screen shots, as I had a major synchronicity involving my surname, the World's end Brewpub in Hobart and a Room 237 sync that was across the road from the pub.
    The 'The World's End Brewpub" was numbered 236 as it's address on the same road as "Room 237" across the road from the pub.
    Which was what prompted me to watch a movie I had very little interest in watching until this bizarre synch in Tasmania.
    The film is worth watching on many levels and even just as a good comedy, although I really didn't get the ending of the movie, which left me puzzled as to what the movie's point was.

    1. That seems vaguely connected to this in a weird, deep kind of way. It's becoming obvious that genetics and not cybernetics are how they'll build their Herrenvolk but still. Maybe Simon Pegg and co. know more than they let on and sneak in bits of truth into his films, even if they realize it will go over most people's heads.

  4. I'm getting paranoid after reading this article. I'm wondering if North America 's slow growth economic policy is create more "Will Byers" for occult testing. As well as the United States "War on Terrorism." Creating the current refuge crisis.(sorry secret sun readers that's what I believe the current refuge crisis is one of the unfortunate by products of). Some moments I want to overreact and lash out at the deep state. But it's got a lot of human shields to buffer itself.
    On a different note Amy Bishop's yearbook picture is how I guessed Stranger Things' Eleven would look like in twelfth grade.

    1. If anyone was the result of a program, it was Bishop. When you read that entire story it's beyond insanity, it's weirder than fiction. She literally kept getting away with murder. Her rampage on the night of Seth's murder reminds me of those twins who went off on the highway in England. It's funny, it took a while for my memory of the two of them to shake loose when the shootings happened at UA. But I remember Seth, he was a sweet kid. Happy, smart kid who liked to talk comics. And for some reason I seem to remember Amy had a crush on me. Which is creepy as hell. I'll try to get confirmation on that, but it keeps popping up in my memory. And the one class I know I was in with her was in- wait for it- 1983.

  5. Paranod or not, the Greek Magical Papyri talk of the use od children as Spirit mediums/seers. See PGM I. 42-195 -The spell of Pnouthis, the sacred scribe, for acquiring an assistant:

    "After first preparing the house in a fitting manner and providing all types of foods
    and Mendesian wine, set these before the god, with an uncorrupted boy'" serving - and maintaining silence until the [angel] departs. And you address preliminary (?)
    words" to the god: "I shall have you as a friendly assistant, a beneficent god
    who serves me whenever I say, 'Quickly, by your power now appear on earth to me, yea verily, god!"'

    And while reclining, you yourself quickly speak about what you propose." Test
    this oath of the god on [what] you wish. But when 3 hours have passed, the god
    will immediately leap up. Order the boy to run [to] the door. And say, "Go, lord,
    blessed god, / where you live eternally, as you will," and the god vanishes. "

    And that's at least 1500 years old. Other mentions in other spells suggest the boy should be a virgin.

    This is Very Old Shit which Deep State would like reliable/production line. Which will never happen, but it doesn't stop them committing horrors disguised as "experiments."

    1. Yeah, they seem to be bait for "angels". Children in general. It's something about their ability to cross over into other realities.

  6. I had a few thoughts:

    1. While I agree the symbolism of the show isn't exactly deep, I did think of it as a primer. I mean, dropping MK Ultra makes a person's ears perk up, and so the show seems less to me about weaving symbols as much as it is about making disturbing history accessible.

    2. I got a serious Qlipphothic vibe from the upside down. I mean, the fact that it's called "the upside down," and the Qlipphoth is all about the inversion of the natural order (I assume you know what I'm talking about) in the shape of a literal upside down Tree of life.

    3. I had a conversation with a friend, and we talked about how old technology (by which I mean 1980s and older) feels like magic. A VHS is a magnetic ribbon that controls the path of electrons in a gaseous magnetic vacuum to make light and sound - the whole thing feels very alchemic. Especially when you take into account that something like 1 or 10% (I can't remember the exact number) of all static is our own sun's interference... it feels very much like how Will communicates with his mom in this show. I think for a lot of these 80s revival shows, the medium *is* the magic: there's no need to use tarot, or invoke Crowley, because electricity, magnetic ribbons, and cartridges *are* a new magic. Of course, those things are always valuable (Winona makes a giant ouija board to communicate with her son, but also experiences EVP on the phone), but assuming we don't murder ourselves in the next few decades, there's a new magic in existence to compete (or coordinate) with the old. I think that's the spirit a lot of this stuff is built in.

    3. I haven't thought about this in a long long time, but one of my earliest memories is of an alien. I don't think I was any older than 4, possibly as young as 3, but my mom had an apartment (single mother), and I have exactly 2 memories of the place, one of them being a dream.

    The real life apartment building had a centrally located courtyard, and every doorway within the apartment had stained glass edges, and all the wood was very dark stained. I just remember those as concrete details of this building.

    The dream was very simple: there was a loud noise and a bright flash in the courtyard, and my mom was the only person who investigated. She told me to stay inside. The next instant, somehow there's a huge silver capsule (similar in shape to what Spock was buried in in Wrath of Khan) in our living room, and it's closed. My mom is very hush-hush about it, and tells me not to worry and to just go to bed. The next morning when I wake up, my mom is making breakfast and talking with a very tall but stereotypical gray alien (wearing a gaudy ruby sequin robe with giant collar, a la Star Trek TOS) sitting on the edge of the now open capsule (the inside of which looks like a gray couch). My mom is VERY excited to introduce me to the alien, and her excitement leads me to believe that the alien must be my dad (whom I've never met). And then the dream is over.

    I remember being probably 7 when I spontaneously remembered the incident and realized it was a dream. On some level, I'd been living as if it were real, and it wasn't until I was comparatively older that I realized it wasn't real.

    Freakin' weird. I'm OK with being half alien if it were true.

    1. They seem to have thrown everything but the kitchen sink into this thing so my attitude is that everything is on the table. As to your dream, see if you remember any others like. Ask anyone you might have known back then if they remember anything weird that might tie into it. It may be just a dream, it may not. People who poke around these kinds of topics are often looking for something though they don't always know why.

  7. Glad (if the word glad should or can be used when discussing these topics) to see that you linked the IGSP website in reference to the FMSF, which would lend me to believe that you have read the extensive research done into the "Dutroux Affair" in Belgium a few years ago and the ramifications thereof. That rabbit hole goes deep.

    1. Oh, I remember when all that shit went down. Terrible story. Belgium is a screwed up country, which is why- of course- the EU is headquartered there. I'm not sure why it's so messed up but all you have to do is read about their colonization of Africa and realize they made all the other imperial powers look like humanitarians. Dutroux is like Leopold reborn and feeding on his own.


    1. Yes, interesting lecture. I've read that before. Disturbing.

  9. Reading your memories of dreams etc. I´m thinking of Whitley Strieber
    and what he´s told of vague very frightening memories of being at military institutions as a a child.
    Apparently his family worked in and was connected in that world in various ways. And how, this way of keeping things in the family, seems to be the way it´s often been done.

    The plot thickens, as they say.
    As I hear it the core story here is more and more becoming a personal search for: ´Who the heck AM I, anyway?!´

    If this were a novel I wouldn´t put it down.

    1. Oh my, that question is what got me into all this in the first place. But let's just say Whitley and I could have some very interesting conversations. It does seem to run in the family, certainly. What exactly it is I'll leave up to your imagination. For now.

    2. That´s a talk I would want to listen in on, for sure. And he´s got a show, no...?

      And- a novel, why not?
      A tested way to talk about things you can´t talk about. Seems it´s all there: the material, personal involvement, insight, layers of meaning, clarity and mystery,the chops, the audience, etc...

      (OK, now I´m starting to need that book LOL)

  10. in "Isis Unveiled" Blavatsky relates that Martin Luther went to a convent with a lake in the Alps, emptied the lake and found thousands of children's bones. would like another source...still creepy and honestly it wouldn't even shock me.

  11. Just a quick thought - I'm still mid beginning of your article - but what can we say of Peter Levenda's 'Sinister Forces' when it comes to regarding the motivating factors driving this research?

    Is 'something' trying to 'let itself out'?

    Maybe that 'something' likes the style of real estate in Dubai, added thought.

    1. I guess that's the question of our times, isn't it? I'm still working on it.

  12. Strong stuff, even by SecretSun standards, Chris.

    Couple of points:
    It's not just kids that produce endogenous DMT; all primate brains do at all ages. Not that this detracts from your thesis particularly... just dotting the is/crossing the ts...

    As for the use of children (as you and VI note and of course is a big theme in Gordon's Archonology), it might be worth noting the chequered career of Peter Lambourn Wilson aka Hakim Bey. Noted for his TAZ: Temporary Autonomous Zone and his extensive work on Sufi mysticism, he's also written rather a lot of prose and poetry singing the praises of 'smooth hairless boys'... and it's not simply that he's a nonce: it's a common theme in Sufi mystical imagery, often in connection with angels (including the angel of Death).

    (Though nonces show up an awful lot in the trajectories here: even in my specific tribe of Robert Anton Wilson/23 folk, there's a history of it - Wilson's friendship with Ginsberg (who wrote erotic poetry for NAMBLA for fucksake) and Kan Campbell's co-adaptor of Illuminatus, Chris Langham. It could be just that abusers thrive in certain environments, or as you're suggesting, there may be a specific requirement in predating on kids beyond the sexual abuse.

    1. Well, it's kind of hard to get data back from young primates, wouldn't you say? If you're going to observe certain effects you'll want to have some kind of communication as to how the subject perceived them. I know all about Wilson/Bey- I actually first encountered him at an open mike night on McDougal Street back in the 80s. He came in, looking like the the dumpster creature in Mulholland Drive, and read these poems about picking up boys at the arcades at Port Authority. My opinion of him hasn't improved since then. He did a radio show called the Moorish Orthodox Crusade on WBAI for a long time. I tuned in a couple times and had no idea what the hell he was going on about.

  13. When in the captioned picture above, the kids decide to "call her El for short", I immediately thought of how that is one of the names of God, and how many angel (and human) names in Judeo-Christian lands end in "-el" to denote "of God".

  14. True story. When I was in high school, the Navy sent me a signed letter from an admiral inviting me to a conference in Washington DC. In retrospect, 20 years later, I realize that it was probably an invitation into the Office of Naval Intelligence. I had fuckoff test scores and my dad was in the Navy... it probably checks out. I never went. I can't imagine what kind of person I would be, today, if I had.

    You should check out the Netflix series Hemlock Grove. It doesn't strike the chord of "tales out of school," but I'm 3 episodes in so far and it certainly seems to capture the /pain/ of magical consciousness.

    1. You may well have dodged a bullet. I have a lot of watching to catch up on. I'll put HG on my list.

  15. Hi again. I think the things run in the military family. My mom is the daugther of a navy officer (submarinist) He traveled from Chile to USA and went to the Antartic. She recalls him being kind of "fakir". He ate glass, pierced himself with long needles, and most notorius, he never seemed to feel any pain (even i remember that, it was very odd he had lots of operations and scars and he never complained or made a suffering face...) I can't even know how they were abble to travel in submarines at that time, the technology involved it's very weird. And then my mom married my dad and went to live in my grandmother house, the one very charged with "spiritual energy" (i never dare to walk at night alone in that house. I was like unable to put my feet on the floor, i was terrified to go to the bathroom at night, i preferred to cry in silence and hold it until someone came) i recall some vivid dreams, and i saw shadow entering the room through the mirror. Spooky house. I was 5 years old and i wanted to die already. They didn't beat me nor treat me bad, but i lived in a "dark enviroment", if i have to name the feeling.

    1. Wow, that's a lot of weight to carry, Pilar. I can relate to the grandmother house thing. Both my sister and I were convinced my grandparents' house was haunted though we didn't actually discuss until much later in life. And we both focused on the hall outside the back bathroom. Interesting coincidence there.

  16. Probably long term program to indentify rebel souls and marry to pop culture. No one that says no to that is irrelevant if they breed in secret.

    I think a lot of hacking in the EM band probably just sifting through the past threads. I do not know why there seems to be a long term program to manage genetics and history.

    I suspect the future wants to be retarded and haunted, with rules. Perhaps an electrical engineer familiar with frequency and amplitude would maybe stick around and fix this. Probably fixing is haunting...

  17. Dr Bender indeed. This is a really heavy going topic that most people including myself tend to shy away from. I've heard a lot about this kind of thing from my late father and it sends chills down my spine so I was kind of worried about reading this but I'm glad I did. Thanks again for the amazing insight. A few years ago my father caught a hospital in the U.K. experimenting with electric shock therapy on an elderly lady who was not in a position to be making any decisions for herself which lead him to find out more and he was shocked. It's shocking stuff.

    1. Sorry it was a care home not a hospital. There's a big difference.

    2. I keep reading articles on how they want to bring ECT back for certain cases. It's alarming. They're trying to make torture acceptable again.

  18. The Horns and the Hawk said:
    “While I agree the symbolism of the show isn't exactly deep, I did think of it as a primer. I mean, dropping MK Ultra makes a person's ears perk up, and so the show seems less to me about weaving symbols as much as it is about making disturbing history accessible.”
    Cindy said:
    “This is a really heavy going topic that most people including myself tend to shy away from. I've heard a lot about this kind of thing from my late father and it sends chills down my spine so I was kind of worried about reading this but I'm glad I did.”

    After thinking about this essay for several days, I dropped by to say something similar in response, esp. to your initial idea that the ‘purpose’ of ST was to “Whiewash” MK Ultra, and suggest it’s something more along the lines of what Horns/Hawk said, because of the reason Cindy alludes to.

    Individuals like yourself and Gordon White, who have spent considerable time and effort delving in to these very disturbing chunks of history and tying them together, may forget just how much resistance “uninitiated” people have to this kind of stuff.

    You can’t go “whole hog” into MK Ultra and etc. to folks who know nothing about it because the immediate reaction to all the horrible stuff is to “look away” and put it out of their minds. People are very motivated to NOT KNOW about this kind of stuff… that “our” govts. would have been involved in such stuff induces shame. (Don’t you, honestly, feel kind of traumatized just by taking it seriously? I know I do.) Plus, on the face of it, it’s all so… improbable. I think this works to the advantage of those who make it their business to exploit children and other vulnerable souls. To try and get it into the public consciousness requires… steps.

    On the Stranger Things subreddit, I have noticed that most people (the vast majority of which seem to be much younger than you or I) don’t have much knowledge of MK Ultra, and those who do don’t seem to know much more than you could pick up from the wikipedia page on the topic.

    I posted Gordon’s essay on Stranger Things to the subreddit devoted to the show, and someone who indicated that they were actively interested in MK Ultra had this reaction: -“I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about. This is like fiction.”- My response to him was “My impression is that Gordon is a very bright guy who has put a lot of attention and effort into this stuff.” I didn’t tell him, “Well, I wish I was 100% confident that he’s wrong… but I’m not.”

    I also posted this essay by you. I think it got six upvotes, and just one comment, from a redditor I pointed it out to because we’d interacted and I was impressed with their level of thought and attention to figuring out the show (they had a positive response). I was working on this comment, the NPR interview with the Duffers came over my stereo. While there was mention of the DOE in the interview, MK Ultra was nor brought up. One thing that did get attention was the overwhelming social media reaction to the death o the minor character, Barb (clearly on display in the subreddit). Is the interest in Barb a way to defensively turn attention away from the awfulness of Elle’s backstory?

    1. I think it's fair to say that MK Ultra adds something very worrying to the pigment of the paint/tar that gets used by this massive brush that anyone who openly admits to doing LSD gets tarred with. I've not educated myself about it at all but as an ex-clubber/raver I've noticed the big brush. The connections to the rave sence do tend to grow mind you. For example the name Dr Bender and the saying 'going on a bender' cannot just be mere coincidence surely. As

    2. Yeah, it's been there since the beginning. Gary Lachman's Turn off Your Mind covers the strange connections between drugs, occultists and popular culture in the Sixties. Add in some national security state manipulations (Acid Dreams is another good book on the subject) and you've basically got several generations of kids who just wanted to have fun but were unwittingly manipulated & socially controlled.

      There's slightly less emphasis on drugs these days because the Internet seems to work quite well as a method of soft mind-control.

    3. ...there's also the observable "fact" that LSD is not harmless for all people in all situations. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend it, although I also know that many people feel like it definitely enhanced their lives.

    4. No, LSD is bad news. It's a synthetic compound to begin with and most of the stuff on the street is of questionable provenance. As to MK Ultra, most of the articles in the mainstream press in the past month have been gloss-jobs for the most part. The media isn't in the business of criticizing government anymore. Or big business. Its main job is to beat up on pre-approved scapegoats, nearly all of whom have no real power.

    5. Can't remember if I've mentioned it here (apologies if so), but your scapegoats comment made me think of Jacques Attali's book Millennium.

      Attali is one of those super-connected types and has written various titles over the years on culture & related issues.

      Millennium came out in the early 90s and superficially is a typical political monograph of the era making predictions about the early 21st Century. He gets one major point wrong (he thought Japan would be the dominant Asian power instead of China) but many of his other musings are so creepily accurate I'm genuinely surprised it's not waved about by conspiracy types as a New World Order planning document.

      He predicts the rich traveller/poor immigrant economic class structure, that we'll all be using phone computers for commerce, that the wealthy will be using devices such as computerised watches to monitor their medical stats, that business will be focussed on commercialising formerly free or cheap services and selling them back to us electronically, that the US will go into decline due to education/healthcare/military debt and the poor & unhealthy will be the primary scapegoats for social problems as humanity's sense of aesthetics will be basically be set by the super-rich global class via the media.

      It's a short, odd book and am only scratching the surface. When it was written it must have looked ridiculous - here's an example review of the time:

      Here's a BBC profile where his earlier book on music theory is discussed:

  19. Still haven't seen Stranger Things, is officially added to my 'must watch asap' list.

    Re: the dark world of child experimentation, it also seems that religious cults were used for similar purposes which Chris has written about. There's so many people popping up in key positions these days who have very odd pasts - Julian Assange is a good example. As an adult he's seemingly led a charmed life as an itinerant hacker, but as a kid he was peripherally involved with the cult group The Family. Their Midwich Cuckoo-esque way of dressing up kids hid yet another saga of experimentation and drug research on youngsters:

    Documentary trailer:

    1. I read the article linked above by Dis yesterday evening. Horrific. I want to disbelieve it. I'm not sure I do.

      Interesting about Assange.

    2. "The Family"- where have we heard that term used in relation to a mind-control cult before? It seems pretty common, no? Or variations on it.

  20. Chris, thoroughly enjoying your commentary on this show. Would love to talk to you about it on a podcast I do. How do I get in touch with you?

    1. What's your podcast, Ryan? Post us the link here so we can check it out.

  21. Re: Radar
    As the opening title graphics of the words 'Stranger Things appear, the first readable sequence of letters fully appearing on screen spell out the word 'ranging' --> stRANGer thINGs which is the final word in the acronym for RADAR.

    1. OK, now that's very interesting. Very revealing, in fact. There are bits here and there that show there's more going on than meets the eye.

  22. I was going to say as with most things like MK I find it hard to know what to believe. I did give Stranger Things a go but found it a bit unnerving, I'll try again one day. Great work as usual.

    1. I found more in the rewatch than I was expecting. So do try to give a run-through.