The 17 President (UPDATED 1/22)

UPDATE: Here Comes the Sun!
UPDATE: The New York Times gets in on the act with a 17 picture gallery
on their front page.
This is picture number 17.
UPDATE 1/21: Et tu, LA Times?
Their 17 of 17 is of the snazzy new Rising Sun rug in the Oval Office.


At 1700 GMT, Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th President of the United States. His inaugural speech, like his victory speech, was 17 minutes long. Cost of the inaugural festivities? $170 Million. I'll leave it to my eagle-eyed readers to discover any further 17 symbolism.

After writing my post on Obama and Gus Grissom, it struck me that our new president might make reference to the Masonic martyr, but only in his usual oblique fashion. Perhaps this is it:
As we consider the road that unfolds before us, we remember with humble gratitude those brave Americans who, at this very hour, patrol far-off deserts and distant mountains. They have something to tell us today, just as the fallen heroes who lie in Arlington whisper through the ages.
Gus Grissom is buried at Arlington.

And Told Through the Ages is the title of an old Masonic text. Interesting conjunction there. It was also very interesting to hear Obama use the term "New Age."

UPDATE II: Interesting to see so many commentators referring to Obama as "following in Lincoln's footsteps," since Lincoln was the 16th President.

UPDATE III: Thuthie points out that the swearing in began at 12:05. 12+0+5= oh, you know. Also, I forgot this Washington Times article about the inauguration: "Masonic Rituals Live On."

UPDTE IV: iAdminie reminds us that the inaugural parade route is 1.7 miles long.

UPDATE V: The Times added another picture to the gallery for a grand total of 18. Hmm, did they do so at 1700 hours?

UPDATE VI: Here's an interesting headline for a mainstream newspaper: "Magical Spell that will open a new American era."
UPDATE VII: I can't find any mention of the Bible verse that Obama picked...

update: I've been told it's I Corinthians 13:11.
13 and 11. Bill Cooper rolls in his grave.UPDATE VIII: BBC: "How Green Will Obama Be?"
UPDATE IX: 33 seconds. Interesting time-code there.
UPDATE X: HuffPost strikes again (see here and here for past examples.)

UPDATE XI: Indras Net has an interesting overview of the Astrology of the inauguration.
UPDATE XII: Seen from Space: The Inauguration Edition. Check out the big day from a satellite-eye view. Software courtesy of Seadragon (!)
UPDATE XIII: It seems that the old eagle-perched-on-globe icon made an appearance at the Inaugural Luncheon. We looked at this in the context of the Phoenix during the election. If you get a chance, watch John and Cindy McCain at the shindig. Not what I would call happy campers. But important in the Phoenix narrative. Screenie courtesy of Reuters, whose logo has undergone a Solar revision recently.

UPDATE XIV: Ahh, how could I forget- the Presidential inauguration in the United States has taken place on the first day of Aquarius since 1937. That would have been the second inauguration of Freemason FDR.

61 comments:

  1. Interesting details regarding the inaugural luncheon:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/20web-inaug2.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

    "The tables were set with large centerpieces of red roses. And a lectern, fashioned from a brass statue of a bald eagle, was positioned behind the dais. Decorators were making final adjustments to the lighting of “View of Yosemite Valley” an 1885 painting by Thomas Hill that was positioned directly behind the President Obama’s seat at the center of the dais."

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  2. I also saw this in a local newspaper. At breakfast today Obama has the hymn “O God Our Help in Ages Past." sung to him and bush.
    http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2009/01/20/news/inauguration/85_obama.txt

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  3. Hi Christopher!

    Apparently, it is the # 17 of times this ceremony, is held in the west side of the White House.

    And What about oil dropping to 33 $ today!
    Indeed very exciting times to be ALIVE !!!

    PJ

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  4. The number 8 and Saturn. . .

    Massive archive - I highly recommend it:

    http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=14789

    May the Most High Creator God of the Universe bless and keep us all in the coming months and years - as opposed to the 'god of this world' and his pantheon which includes baal and mammon in particular.

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  5. Lots of what could be intentional (not on Obama's part) 17s there, it looks like he's getting "set up" sort of in the same way Bush was with the Pet Goat book, part of a forced symbol storm including the Eagles and previous presidents and icons which just happened to be assassinated. Obama now seems like more of a puppet than ever. He refers to "whispers", almost as if he knows the 17 is acting through him. The Gus Grissom (GG, 77... quite fitting) connections are astounding.

    I haven't been able to watch any coverage of the inauguration (they let schools out early today... schools up here get 2 long-ass breaks for winter, they don't care much about educating the youth... Not that they can, the system's all messed up) but I'll be sure to watch the important parts on youtube and see what I can dredge from it.

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  6. Something I never knew, but which was printed in one of the Berlin papers: The new president is to be sworn in at 11:56 local time. I think they were a bit late, no?

    Paraphrasing from the speech: To those who would stir up trouble...we will defeat you...

    And what is with all the talk, which started even before he'd been elected, about "holding his feet to the fire" ?

    A new age of accountability indeed.

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  7. I'll just add that we just took a giant step towards that Star Trek future I wrote about in June. Interesting that the new ST film is out this year. I believe Tuvok Obama (his new name here on the Sun) is the man that will put a good deal of the infrastructure into place.

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  8. Chris,

    Obama's name was first mentioned at

    11:44 (44th president).

    But perhaps more importantly. He began his swearing in at EXACTLY. . .wait for it. . .

    12:05 pm (12+5) = 17

    I was thinking something like 12 (magick number - 12 apostles, signs, prophetcs etc.) and 5 being the number of the first 3 degrees of Freemasonry.

    Thanks for this.

    Thuth

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  9. One more thing I want to point out.

    Cheney in the Wheelchair was meant to evoke FRANKLIN d Roosevelt.

    I mentioned before we were moving from an American Spirit based around the metaphor of Benjamin Franklin to one of Lincoln, from breaking away to unifying. Cheney, as the "Killed King 33", in the wheelchair was both a hobbled king, and also the death of Franklin - or Benjamin Franklin.

    Amazing insights, as always.

    Is it a hawk or sparrow's eye you have Chris? ;)

    Thuth

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  10. "Masonic rituals live on". No... Really? That's a newsflash. Still, it is startling seeing Obama so openly associated with Masons on a widely-read mainstream website. Not in Kansas anymore, etc.

    The 17 is for resurrection, and everyone is ritually implying that Obama is a reincarnation of JFK and Lincoln. I think if people stopped living in the past his presidency might actually change something, like maybe if we (America, collectively) looked at him for who he actually is and not who the elite want us to want him to be, things would flow into some actual progress. But it never seems to work that way...

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  11. The day got started at St. John's Church...with Obama & Bush...

    Wonder if Kennedy has survived his massive seizure? That would be a pretty creepy day of events alone...

    I agree about Cheney standing in as FDR as symbolic of the depression as well.

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  12. It's all about 8's!
    44=8
    17=8
    right?

    So, let's go to the Tarot.
    The first trump, The Magician,
    really embodies Obama and what he claims he will achieve in office.
    Above his head, we see the infinity symbol, the sideways 8.

    "According to Arthur Edward Waite, this card signifies the divine motive in man. It is also the unity of the individual being on all planes, and in a very high sense it is thought. With further reference to the "sign of life", i.e. the infinity symbol and its connection with the number 8, it may be remembered that Christian Gnosticism speaks of rebirth in Christ as a change "unto the Ogdoad." The mystic number is termed Jerusalem above, the Land flowing with Milk and Honey, the Holy Spirit and the Land of the Lord. According to Martinism, 8 is the number of Christ."
    -wiki

    Also, the number 8 or number 11 trumps (depending on the deck are:

    Strength and Justice. Justice has our twin pillars with the divining-sword-holding leader, where strength usually features a lion and the feminine character with infinity above her head as she opens the lion's (israel?) mouth.

    Could get a lot more into this, but just wanted to make the #8/Tarot connection and see where it leads!

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  13. Hey Chris.

    Thanks for the synchronicity and symbolism.

    Just a follow up on what Tony D posted, it should be noted that the number of Jesus is 888.

    Using the Greek Ionic Ciphered Numeral System scientifically proves this. In this system, each letter of the Greek alphabet is assigned a numerical value. The name of Jesus in Greek is spelled I H S O U S (iota, eta, sigma, omicron, upsilon, sigma). Substituting in the Greek numeral system the equivalent numerical values to each letter in the name of Jesus and adding them up, the total is 888. The values of each letter are: iota, 10; eta, 8; sigma, 200; omicron, 70; upsilon, 400; sigma, 200. The sum of 10 + 8 + 200 + 70 + 400 + 200 is 888.

    Very interesting.

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  14. In addition, according to Wikipedia, Jesus is often referred to as Jesus H. Christ.

    From Wikipedia:
    Jesus H. Christ is an example of slang serving as a mild profanity. The expression can be used in an angry, wry, sarcastic, cynical, exasperated, or even joking tone. The expression implies that the Christ is a surname rather than a title (Christ comes from the Greek christos meaning "anointed.")

    The expression dates to at least the late 19th century, although according to Mark Twain it was already old in 1850, and likely originates with the ancient Christian three-letter symbolism IHS (the Christogram). (Smith 1994, p. 332)

    Using the name of Jesus Christ as an oath has been common for many centuries, but the precise origins of the letter H in the expression Jesus H. Christ are obscure. While many explanations have been proposed, some serious and many humorous, the most widely accepted derivation is from the divine monogram of Christian symbolism. The symbol, derived from the first three letters of the Greek name of Jesus (Ιησούς), is transliterated IHS, IHC, JHS or JHC. Since the transliteration IHS gave rise to the backronym Iesus Hominum Salvator (Latin for "Jesus savior of men"), it is plausible that JHC similarly led to Jesus H. Christ. (Smith 1994, pp. 332-3)

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  15. Don't forget that IHS originally stood for "Isis Horus Serapis."

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  16. inagural parade is 1.7 miles long

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  17. Adding to what Thuth mentioned, Franklin's invocation continued with Aretha FRANKLIN signing My Country Tis of Th(r)ee during the inauguration.

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  18. Obama is happily being the 13th President to occupy the FDR-redesigned Oval Office. ;)

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  19. Hey guys, maybe you should cool it on this 17 thing - it's starting to sound like the 'Number 23' movie with Jim Carrey! You don't want to end up totally losing it and seeing out your days frothing at the mouth about numerological conspiracies! Lol!

    Seriously though, I think some people out there with more fragile mental constitutions could really lose the balance of their minds with all of this.
    I'm starting to worry about mine as it is!!
    You know you're in trouble when you start seeing synchs all the time everywhere you look. And that seems to be the way it works according to the Celestine prophecy, the more you notice and become aware of, the more of the phenomena you attract. It's an intelligent universe out there. When you start paying attention to it, it responds and ups the ante.
    So be careful out there..

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  20. Hi Chris - thanks for your ongoing musings and the Star Trek throwout there - This morning I caught myself imagining Zefrem Cochrane on the podium more than once . . . (Tuvok Obama eh?, I guess that's better than the nickname I was using; Barak Adama ....Now those poor people have had all their hope ripped from them - So I will gladly switch :) )
    Thuth - the image of Cheney in a wheelchair was a mind-blower! I often tell people that the greatest thing any politician will ever do is get defeated; in practical terms the chief aim of Democracy is the Peaceable transfer of power; But in mythic terms it fulfills the need for the dying king, in sync with Nature's cycles. Cheney played his enfeebled role in today's fable to perfection.
    I took extra notice at today's musical selection "Air and Simple Gifts" arranged by John Williams (tho' they could have played his theme from Superman . . . )adapted from an old Shaker hymn the melody is familiar to most from a couple of sources . . it comprises the most well-known part of Aaron Copeland's ballet "Appalachian Spring", first performed at the Library of Congress in 1944 and Copeland's attempt at capturing "the ideal America"
    Perhaps the more famous source is the Hymn "Lord of the Dance" . . .
    I danced in the morning
    When the world was begun,
    And I danced in the moon
    And the stars and the sun,
    And I came down from heaven
    And I danced on the earth,
    At Bethlehem
    I had my birth.

    Dance, then, wherever you may be,
    I am the Lord of the Dance, said he,
    And I'll lead you all, wherever you may be,
    And I'll lead you all in the Dance, said he.

    It is considered some of the dancing mentioned here is a reference the procession of the Holy Ark into Jerusalem - the occasion when David "danced before the Lord" Of course the New Testament bookend sync with the entry of the Ark into Jerusalem, is the entering of the Messiah in that Holy City . . . the two separate events are meant at heart to be the same.
    This procession of the Ark is still celebrated in some places with re-enactments; dancing and parading, - most familiar perhaps to most of us is that told of by Graham Hancock in his book "The Sign and the Seal",where he relates how the Ethiopian Orthodox Church annually parades their Tabots around the churchyard.
    The name of the day they perform this ritual is Timqat; which is celebrated January 19 or 20th.

    Anyway - congrats to my American friends on this auspicious day - and as I have just heard, your first "National Day of Renewal and Reconciliation"

    David

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  21. for what its worth andre...

    O B A M A
    15 2 1 18 1

    15+2=17= 8,
    and we're left with 11, 8 and 1.

    woooooooah.

    somebody please decipher this!

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  22. ....it's just Shakespeare

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  23. Has anyone ever seen any corelation with the number 44? I remember the shuttle that was destroyed over Texas had a lot of 4's and 44's associated with it, and now the 44th pres.

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  24. hey chris

    apologies if any of what follows isn't news - i don't have time to comb your posts too closely

    Besides Jesus, 888 is also number of the hidden Sun, which, as you probably know, is Sirius. The visible Sun's number is 666.

    you will want to check out The Guardian's piece on BO's inauguration, if you haven't already, at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/barack-obama-inauguration
    the title is "Magical spell that will open a new American era" and it includes the lines:

    "Today a magic spell will be performed. A man who 12 weeks ago was a mere political candidate will be transformed with the incantation of a few words, before a vast crowd and a television audience in the hundreds of millions if not billions, into the head of state, even the embodiment, of the most powerful nation on earth. It is an act of political alchemy that happens every time a new president is inaugurated, but rarely has the moment been as anticipated as this one."

    Most brazenly of all: "But it is not only black America's pride in Obama that is lending extra magic to today's act of sorcery."

    So there you have it, method revealed, for all to see, with a none too subtle juxtapositioning of the words "black" and "magik"...

    AK

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  25. I already added that link, AK, but thanks for the quotes.

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  26. So, AK, your quotes from the Guardian specifically blacks adding to the power of the magic proves what I've been kicking around: That the campaign,and election of Obama on the backs of American blacks was one of the greatest deceptions in history.

    I state that because Obama really has no connection with "American" Blacks. His blackness comes from free Africa. His father was Kenyan and none of his ancestors were ever slaves.

    His white mother was never a slave (I believe I've heard that some of her ancestors may have been sharecroppers- but so was half of white America a century ago.)

    Note FOX commentator Brit Hume mentioned today that Michelle Obama (not Barack) was descended from slaves.

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  27. WoW, so much, taking time to digest

    You must be Christopher KnowMORE and everywhere all at once, watching the world play charades long after you've concluded the answer.

    So where did all the magic go? After reading the last two posts I think I see False Flag Miracles. Obama's 17 shadow seems cognitively predetermined, elaborate but within the realm of human possibility.

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  28. and the thing I noticed was Obama stumble over his words

    They started off by calling him Barrak H. Obama, then just Barrak Obama and as he was swearing in, they went all out an said the, to be shuttered, H word - Hussein and immediately Obama started sputtering out of turn, like to muffle the words. After that it took it him quite a while to regain the composure neccesary to repeat words.

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  29. Thuth sez:"Cheney in the Wheelchair was meant to evoke FRANKLIN d Roosevelt." What's funny is that Tom Brokaw said that Cheney in a wheelchair makes him think of Dr. Strangelove. Brokaw was surprisingly candid today.

    FilmNoir23 - according to a liveblogger on HuffPost and commenters on CSPAN, Kennedy's okay and was arguing with medics on the way out of the lunch. It was just a spazz attack, jeez, he sez.

    Anony repeats RW talking points "...Obama really has no connection with 'American' Blacks. His blackness comes from free Africa. His father was Kenyan and none of his ancestors were ever slaves."

    Anony, Barack Obama's blackness comes from the melatonin in his skin. If Barack Obama were driving on I-5 four years ago, he'd be stopped and searched by the State Police because of his skin color, not his regal African heritage. Furthermore fewer Black Americans are descended from slaves than you think.

    James, Barack Obama stumbled over his words because he was expecting John Roberts to pause after his name, and so started talking over Roberts. Then Roberts fumbled the Oath by misplacing the word 'faithfully.' That was one of the more interesting scenes of the day, as neither man voted for the other.

    Chris, I thought you'd like to see The Inauguration from Space.

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  30. James - "You must be Christopher KnowMORE and everywhere all at once"

    I was thinking Chris KnowleDGE. That works too, though :)

    Astronut: We're not exactly looking for these numbers and symbols, see... They appear on their own. We just log the appearances when they show up somewhere that a LOT of people could be looking. Yesterday was a pretty huge day, something tells me the syncs are fueled by consciousness and appear more where more people are (unconsciously) looking, such as movies, news, etc., giving us clues as to the reality of the situation through symbolic wisdom. Chris just has it down to a science, and personally I'd rather not feign ignorance of the "coincidences" to save my own "sanity".

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  31. Chris -

    The President did ( almost) quote scripture. One I'm sure you're familiar with -
    1st Corinthians 13:11 "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
    He sort of made reference to Americans needing to put away childish or ' former ' Things. I just paraphrased his paraphrase! But he didn't follow through with the rest of the apostle Paul's verse or context. I have NOT considered whether the chosen verse might have some numerological or hidden significance though. Hmm.

    thrace

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  32. Obama's chosen scripture was 1 Corinthians 13:11.

    'When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.'

    The phrase 'New Age', as you surely noticed, was uttered not once but twice. There was also a very interesting reference to a very specific 'spirit of the past' which needs to be in in all of us now.




    ATB,
    Ben

    (Can't log in with my Blogger account for some reason.)

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  33. Obama's scripture was 1 Corinthians 13:11.

    'When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.'

    The phrase 'New Age', as you surely heard, was uttered not once but twice.

    There was also a very specific reference to an ancestral 'spirit' which needs 'to inhabit us all.'



    ATB,
    Ben

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  34. Todd Campbell at Through the Looking Glass, has pointed out in his recent article on The Prisoner, that there were a total of 17 episode.

    Patrick McGoohan, the prisoner, passed away right before the inauguration.

    Thanks Todd.

    Thuth

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  35. we've also got the link to The Magician in the Tarot coming clear with that London Independent article.

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  36. skin has melanin not melatonin

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  37. Regarding Joe Bidens prediction that Obama will be tested like John Kennedy early on:

    TONIGHT UK Television is showing "Life on Mars
    Season 1 Episode 1. A Fantasy drama, about a detective who ends up in a coma and when he comes round, finds he has somehow been transported back to 1973."
    http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail.asp?id=32596215

    Can't help wonder if this is foreshadowing another Oil Crisis triggered by an Arab/Israeli war like in 1973.

    I'm watching UK TV much more closely now, as its not the first time I've noticed corespondences between the dates that "fictional" programmes are aired on UK TV and world events.

    William

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  38. Curiously, TONIGHT UK TV is also showing "War of the Worlds" (Martians) and a Star Trek: Voyager episode featuring TIMETRAVEL.

    William

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  39. Christopher, hey, I 'Gno' that I'm a tad inaccessible to some folks at turns, but in addition to all the gematria inherent in these proceedings, so well cited by you & others in this thread, I had an epiphany only just this Sunday. The Black Sun, longed after by the Thule Society, isn't a geographical place within the Hollow Earth (see http://holloworbs.com/daitya.htm for an overview of the nineteenth century writer John Uri Lloyd's Hollow Earth classic, "Etidorhpa") but a state of being requisite for a practitioner of the Black Arts to be inhabited by a discarnate. Black Sun=Black Son.

    Also, how many president elects have you ever seen wear a bow tie before? I was struck by how remeniscent of Louis Farakhan, the leader of the Million (Black) Man March on Washington, that that was.

    Oh! Don't forget that Farakhan's mentor was Elijah Mohammed, who himself claimed to be a contactee & whose writings are rife with much of what ETs had conveyed to him about the race question, deeply saturating what he later taught to his Nubian Islamic Hebrew Nation followers.

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  40. Bad taste on the part of American Idol,
    or just a mystic Synch!??

    The new Louisville, Kentucky auditions featured
    (M)ark (M)udd from (C)ox (C)reek
    descendant of Dr. Samuel Mudd, known for fixing the leg of John Wilkes Booth,
    the assassin of President Abraham Lincoln.

    He sadly attempted to sing "White Lightning".

    Another weird one with the recent inaugural events and that ARIA(n/Aryan) computer in Nitrogen from Evil/Eagle Eye.

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  41. Forgot to mention that Mark Mudd was wearing his One-Eyed Eagle Bolo.

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  42. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama retook his oath of office Wednesday after Chief Justice John Roberts flubbed while delivering it at Tuesday's inauguration.

    The second oath took place at 7:35 p.m. Wednesday in the White House's Map Room, according to a pool reporter who witnessed it.

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  43. I wonder if Roberts did that intentionally 'cuz Tuvok voted against his confirmation.

    As to the Idol bits, creepy...

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  44. 10:34 Ben & 10:46 Chris

    13:11

    4 2

    4x2 = 8 (1+7)

    then again...
    could just as easily be

    1x3 x 11 = 33

    or

    1+3 x 11 = 44

    and 33+44= 77

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  45. Gus Grissom was killed during a training exercise and pre-launch test for the Apollo 1 mission.
    Deep Impact movie:
    President: Morgan Freeman.
    Gus Partenza, astronaut, dies during the mission of the Messiah.

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  46. For those who don't know the Lightning bolt tattoo is used by the Aryan Brotherhood/Nation

    "White Lightning"

    Creepy indeed!

    And more-so with the threats linked to the Aryan Nation early in Obama's campaigning!

    And Mark Mudd had a shaved head and the bolo tie was just the head of the one-eyed eagle.
    A one-eyed eagle head on a string/rope! Couldn't have been more obvious if it was a noose.

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  47. Oh oh, just read Goro's free Etemenanki and it synchs to the American Idol Mark Mudd post.

    (H)udson (H)ero
    88 !
    Eighty-Eight is ANOTHER synch/link to the Aryan Nation.

    and then there's this:

    Arrest of Neo-Nazis in Obama Assassination Plot a Reminder of Enduring White Supremacist Culture in US

    I truly SHUDDER to even think what the outcome of something like that would be!!

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  48. As if Idol wasn't enough!

    Those at FOX follow the American Idol Louisville Auditions with the pilot of Lie to Me (conveniently at 3 minutes past the hour!)
    in which the opening scene is the interrogation of -

    a prisoner from the Aryan Nation!

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  49. In this Masonic tracing board infamous picture - there is 16 rays around the eye of baRAck - thus making him the 17-th RAy ..

    http://www.alchemywebsite.com/paintings/McL_masonic1.jpg

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  50. and also in there could be 17 step ladder ?!

    Now when i searched for the 17 i found this interesting site and section/page 17

    http://www.samliquidation.com/section_17.htm

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  51. Fifty-one comments before me, and no one mentions that the podium used for the inaugural luncheon, arguably the most exclusive event of the entire ritual (only close Washington insiders and immediate family invited), is an eagle looking to the right with its wings outspread, claws clutching the world globe, atop a spiraled post (or tower)? Was anyone really looking, or just seeing what they expected to see?

    The inauguration is always (since the amendment change, anyway) on January 20. And yet no one bothered to check the planetary hours of the day either? Silly, since the schedule of the day matches up quite well with the planetary hours and most 'real' magick types would consult those first, especially since the day, and therefore the moon phase, astrological and planetary alignments that go with it are not optional. (by picking a more favorable day)

    Very often humans see what they wish or expect to see. Even synchromystic types. Better to do one's homework and really understand the subject, rather than try to flub through it and sound important.

    Secret Sun and its readers usually do better--I'm disappointed.

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  52. Secret Sun and its readers are always keen to contribute new information and catch things other people might have missed, in a spirit of cooperation and fellowship. They also provide links and examples so others can share in their discoveries. I'm not an astrologer, though I did cite Indras' look at some of the aspects.

    If you have information to share, please do so.

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  53. I don't think "Anonymous" should be disappointed because we didn't catch something. As the postings demonstrate, we all make unique contributions based on whatever we are (or think we are) "tuned" into.

    Although I do wonder if I read too much into certain things, Secret Sun is a perfect venue to post my own insights and to see if there might be something to them. As a librarian by profession, I see it as a catalog or database of interconnecting ideas. As a Unitarian Universalist, I see Secret Sun is a place where our differing perspectives and experiences might point to some metaphysical truths.

    Let's not worry so much about what other people miss, and focus more on contributing our unique insights to broaden the scope of Secret Sun.

    Jason

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  54. Okay... this article title from a recent issue of The Nation is just too bizarre.

    Jason

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  55. Chris and Jason,

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    We don't have to watch for spooks if everything people says contributes to the great cause of collaborative learning, loving and enlightenment.

    Why disappointed that people didn't catch something? Wouldn't you be more excited that you could bring this find to the table and share it with everyone? What's up with that? Where did you come from?

    AND

    Of course we all see the synchs we want to see. That's part of the whole thing. It's not a detriment to it, but a positive thing. The quantum world we live in teaches us you can't take the observer out of the equation. Synchs are about the Universe revealing things WITH us. Everybody that's experiencing these synch streams is experiencing them individually. And that doesn't un-validate all the work done.

    Just the opposite. It gives us greater insight into the role our consciousness and beliefs play in the creation of the world.

    The argument of whether synchs are really there, or whether our consciousness put them there is sooooo played out - about a year to a year and a half ago in these very blogs.

    I speak to the Universe / Valis / God directly. And it speaks back to me DIRECTLY.

    Read ThutherThoughts PDF for more about the history of synch research, and stop worrying about whether they are there. You see them, they are, and think more about the role your belief system plays in the creation of your universe.

    Welcome to the quantum world my friend.

    Thuth

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  56. In an article that came out yesterday. Isreal said it has hired a cadre of young people to TROLL anti-war blogs.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-recruits-army-of-bloggers-to-troll-anti-war-websites.html

    While I'm not saying that last commenter was one of those people, the comment felt like it could slip into the same vein.

    Watch for this, Chris. Remember Zupacomputer?

    Thuth

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  57. I am disappointed because I believe the Secret Sun's readers can do better. I have no reason to jump up and down at my 'discovery,' for I did not discover anything. I merely used my eyes to see what was clearly in front of me. And happen to be fortunate enough to know what certain symbols point to.

    Thuth, I've already read your website. I happen to be older than the history of synch research, and I'm quite familiar with it. "I speak to the Universe / Valis / God directly. And it speaks back to me DIRECTLY." Funny thing, GWB said the same thing. Are you SURE you're not on his side?

    If it makes you happier, I will freely let you know that I do not think Israel's actions in Gaza were justified or correct. And I am not in or from Israel.

    As for contributing information, my last post certainly did, but it appears that no one bothered to check up on it, with the exception of Chris, who very promptly found the podium and has been quite gracious, as I expected he would be.

    If you want to know more about planetary hours, I suggest doing a search. The basics are not that hard, but the nuances can be rather detailed.

    Sorry, I don't do other people's homework for them. I only point the way, and then YOU decide what to think. Or not. If you want to know more about this, I suggest you run the planetary hours for the day of the inauguration and compare them with the actual events of the day to see what you may see.

    Perhaps there is a misplaced sense of offence? Ego attachment often does that. Emotion of that sort has a way of clouding rational thought.

    To paraphrase a saying: "Those who speak the loudest often know the least. Those who know much speak seldom, if at all."

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  58. Guys, let's not let this get out of hand. It's important to me that everyone have their say, but it's also important that conversation stay constructive. When I have some time I'll look around for Tuesday's charts.

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  59. "Funny thing, GWB said the same thing. Are you SURE you're not on his side?"

    While not necessarily in the vein I believe you meant it, this is actually a very interesting question, and one that Chris and I have batted around a little before.

    Many of the paranormal researchers I've been reading lately have talked about how the Nazis (the real Nazis in 1930 Germany) used dark rituals to open up a gateway of communication with The Universe / God / VALIS, and that because of their near victory in WWII, they believe that whatever that Valis force is sided with them and helped them.

    After about a year of writing synch articles (this happened at the beginning of last summer), I thought we may be empowering the dark symbols we were writing about - through the act of writing about them and bringing people's attention to them.

    This gave me pause, and it was only after talking to Gosporn about needing to take control of symbols (after my refusing to blog about this for about 5 months) that I felt able to come back to it in good conscience.

    That's why I have a ThutherThoughts PDF of the early blog, and then when I came back to it, I snapped up ConspiracyGrimoire.

    But after thinking about Valis working with NAZI's - which may not be too far off base - I wonder again, and am trying to be real careful.

    That said, I might just be working for the same force as GWB, while not consciously. I'm really still trying to figure that one out. The other side of the Matrix is a GREAT mystery, indeed.

    ***********

    I apologize for insinuating that you were a spook - which I totally did.

    That was wrong of me. We had a guy on these blogs a while back who went by the handle of Zupacomputer. He was laying out some pretty bad stuff and was eventually banned from many of the synchromystic blogs - he was totally banned from ThutherThoughts and it was the first time I felt like I had to not let someone post a comment on my blog. It was too bad.

    While I don't want to lump you in the same boat - because of that incident, and the recent Zion Army of Bloggers article, I am super-sensitive.

    Again, without knowing you ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH to make a damning judgement like that, I apologize. Please accept.

    And Chris, I apologize for doing so on your blog. Which was wrong and more out of fear than compassion.

    But Anonymous, please also understand how the tone of your post and the attitude of it toward the other kind souls commenting here might just lead me to think that.

    Thank you for reading my blog.

    Please enjoy the free PDF download, and I'm working on a killer old-skool synch article that will be going up in a couple days. Hopefully, you will enjoy it.

    Thank you for taking the time to Read Secret Sun, that says something VERY POSITIVE about you, and I hope we can continue the conversation in a sane and friendly manner. I bet if we sat down to coffee together, we would find ALOT we have in common. Especially if your reading Chris Knowles.

    I will not call names. And again, my apologies for insinuating something I never should have done.

    Thanks Anonymous - Thanks Chris!

    Keep Rockin!

    Thuth

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  60. It should be noted that the current stimulus bill that just pass through the House of Representatives, sponsored by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats and endorsed by President Obama, contains 647 pages. 6+4+7 = 17. 1+7 = 8.

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