Tempest in a Psyop?: The "Roswell Slides" Redux

UFOlogy isn't dead. On the contrary it appears to be stuck in an never-ending adolescence. I don't know exactly why but there's something about the subject that makes middle-aged adults act like 13 year-olds, and the subculture is endlessly locked in the digital equivalent of a schoolyard brawl.

This goes especially for those UFOlogists who consider themselves "skeptics" or debunkers. In point of fact, the skeptics are more obsessed with the topic than even the most credulous Pleiadean light worker, and seem to spend all of their free time trying to convince everyone that they're not like those "believer" so-and so's, they're critical thinkers. 

Actually, they're just like the kid who thinks he's too cool to sit at the outcast lunch table he's been banished to, unwilling to realize that the rest of the school thinks he's no different than the other outcasts. 

After all, no one is forcing debunkers to spend all the livelong day talking about flying saucers on UFO sites, even if they do so with a sneer and an air of smug superiority. And it's not as if one needs to man the hustings against rampaging UFOlogists, on the verge of taking over the world.

The fact of the matter is that debunkers are just disheartened believers, longing with all their hearts for the skies to open and for the saucermen to take them to the stars. It probably wouldn't take much coaxing to draw this out, maybe just a few beers and a starry sky. 

It's clear that debunkers suffer from what psychologists call "approach-avoidance conflict syndrome," a conflict between desire of an object and fear of it. The debunker is torn by his insatiable desire for a close encounter and his simultaneous fear of the unknown (or perhaps his fear that the unknown will forever elude him). 

So in order to cope with this conflict the debunker immerses himself completely in the UFOlogy subculture but does so in an adversarial fashion. But if they were really interested in science and all the rest of it, why aren't they off talking about the digestive enzymes of the giant tiger prawn or the photosynthetic processes of the Pacific Northwest tree fern? 

You know, science?

To complicate matters further the new generation of skeptics are mostly concerned with social and political issues and think paranormal skepticism is not only corny and irrelevant, but actually counterproductive.

In any event, UFOlogy is also sailing against some pretty heavy headwinds. Government secrecy has metastasized beyond all reason since 9/11. The Internet (particularly YouTube) has decentralized the subculture, giving rise to voices that have no interest in established UFOlogy. The expectation of free content and the interminable economic malaise mean there's no money for independent investigators to do any "boots on the ground" work anymore. 

Old time UFOlogists harp on the fact that we're not seeing the kinds of cases we did in the 60s and 70s but the reality is that no one is out there investigating reports the way they did back then.

Almost no one. Into this mix we also have MUFON, which like everything else in America is now controlled by a shadowy billionaire, a billionaire who doesn't like to share much. MUFON has an agenda the rest of the subculture can only guess at and "ex-MUFON director" seems to be an honorific a lot of BADs (or "born again debunkers") have tacked onto their bylines these past few years. MUFON also has a fairly visible TV series on cable, one that just happens to ignore most of the UFOlogical community.

These headwinds have meant that not a lot of news is breaking in UFOlogy these days. Sightings seem to be clicking up but so too are bad CGI hoaxes (helpful hint: if someone doesn't step forward to claim credit for a hoax video within a few weeks or so, assume it's been created by some intelligence agency somewhere). 

Scientists do seem to be talking about aliens quite a lot these days but don't consult with UFOlogists on account of the fact that they consider them subhuman. There's been a lot of talk of UFOs in the Christian conspiracy community, anathema to UFOlogists who consider their work "scientific." And then there are also the endless bizarre proclamations coming from the Vatican, now controlled by the Jesuit Order, who seem awfully interested in ET (but not so much in UFOlogists).

It was into this primordial ooze that the so-called Roswell Slides appeared. I personally didn't pay it much mind, given the fact that it all seemed to center on a small network of debunker and BAD sites, nearly all of which offer up a lot of acrimony, posturing and cant and not a lot of interesting information.

UFOlogist Kevin Randle gives us a thumbnail sketch of the genesis of the psychodrama:
(I)n February 2013, Rich Reynolds published a column about some slides that had surfaced showing a body from the Roswell crash but we, meaning the team assembled for the reinvestigation, couldn’t talk about it because of some sort of a nondisclosure agreement that had been signed. I knew nothing of the slides and I had signed no such agreement. Nick Redfern seemed to be the source on this and since I know Nick, I called him to ask about it. 
He told me that the slides had been found when a woman had been cleaning out a house for an estate sale (though now we learn that it might have been a house that was about to be demolished). She had sent the slides to her brother and he eventually got in touch with Tom (Carey) and Don (Schmitt) (or (Adam) Dew, after finding the slides sought out Tom and Don, whatever)
The above mentioned Adam Dew was the instigator behind all of this, and it was he whose friend's sister had found the box of slides. Dew is a video producer who specializes in sports and has done work for the local professional sports teams in Chicago. Dew produced a very slick video trailer for this project and was working on a documentary film, which presumably will be scuttled now.

NOTE: I previously wrote about this drama in this post.

What didn't make any sense is why these people would have access to any ET evidence at all. Rumors have circulated over the years that Jackie Gleason was once shown an EBE by his personal friend Richard Nixon. But if that's so you can bet your life he wasn't allowed to photograph his encounter. Gleason is not well known now but he was television's first superstar and was also a major player in some political circles. Conversely, the couple in question concern the slides here were nobodies. 

If Barry Goldwater- one of the most powerful political figures of the 20th Century- was unable to get access to any information concerning UFOs (not to mention Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, etc etc), why on earth would anyone believe this couple were given access to alien bodies? The premise here is a non-starter.

And if by some fluke of chance they were able to sneak a peak at at an EBE, wouldn't they be a bit more circumspect about storing the slides in question? I would think a safe or a safe deposit box would be where you'd find something as potential as earth-shattering as the photographic evidence of a dead UFO pilot, an artifact that would change the course of human history.

The issue rumbled along in a small corner of the UFOlogy underworld, until finally it was announced that the photos would be revealed during a paid event in Mexico City, hosted and paid for by Mexican TV personality Jaime Maussan. A group of N&B (nuts-n-bolts) and BAD UFOlogists formed a group to counter the claims of the slides group and the invective was duly hurled. As the Mexico City event approached a low-rez image of one of the slides was leaked and almost immediately it was identified as mummified child in a museum display case (even in lo-rez it looked wizened and ancient).

Things went to bad to worse and the unveiling event (this past May 5th) was almost universally panned. Suddenly the event became a vehicle for score-settling, and UFOlogists who had nothing to do with the mess were suddenly and bizarrely accused of responsibility for it. 

No, in fact all of UFOlogy was responsible for it, according to the debunkers and their fellow travelers, even though one debunker admitted that the "UFO community that warned them all along to suspend judgment pending verifiable evidence," but the slides team "chose to reject those warnings with aggressive and self-righteous contempt." But who needs fact when there are witches to burn? 

The debunkers are still riding the hobbyhorse, but the fact is that hardly anyone outside the UFOlogical ghetto was paying attention and most people inside didn't believe the hype in the first place. Certainly no one is paying attention now.

Undetered, some debunkers are now stirring up a good old-fashioned witchhunt, and are campaigning against not only the slides team but also Richard Dolan, who agreed to give a lecture on UFO history at the event even though he remained neutral on the slides themselves. Some are even trying to use the brouhaha to not-so-subtly campaign for bookings at UFO conferences (Hey, chuckleheads- people who go to UFO conferences have no interest in listening to debunkers). 

The professional jealousy in UFOlogy is stultifying. 

The slides team were part of the so-called "Roswell Dream Team" (a name they gave themselves) and were contacted for their alleged expertise in the Roswell case. They've since claimed that they weren't shown a hi-res image of the slide as part of their reasoning for getting involved. 

I can't help but wonder about this- why get involved if you couldn't actually see the evidence in question? This fact-- along with the obvious polish of the trailer and other details-- leads me to wonder if there wasn't upfront money, maybe a lot, involved in all of this. That would go a long way in explaining why two presumably experienced investigators would put their reputations on the line with so little to go on.

One of the Dream Team posted a mea culpa and said of the placard that identified the "alien" as a mummy:
I was told that the best-available, highest resolution images of the placard were provided by the co-owner of the slides, Mr. Adam Dew, and given to world-class photo experts including Ray Downing of Studio Macbeth in NY (who conducted analysis on the Shroud of Turin) and Colonel Jeffrey Thau (who sent them to the Pentagon’s Photo Interpretation Department.) Despite the application of the best de-blurring software in the world, they were unable to read the words on the placard with any definitiveness. 
 I can only surmise that Mr. Adam Dew did not provide to these experts the highest-resolution images of the slides. Why he did not, I cannot be certain. But Adam Dew has to this very day not yet publicly provided the crystal-clear slide images that I know exist.
Well, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Now that we see the Pentagon's involvement, we're playing an entirely different ballgame.

No one in UFOlogy would ever stop to ask this question but has anyone familiar with this story ever stopped to wonder that this may have been a psyop all along? The Dream Team includes a former career military man and is poking around military secrets, even if they are almost 70 years old now. The aftermath of the Roswell event may still radiate around classified projects and maybe someone thought it was time to put the issue to rest once and for all.

Equally questionable is the slick video presentation that was put together to promote this debacle. I understand that Adam Dew is involved in video production but this seems a bit too polished- too Hollywood- for a guy who basically films college football games. 

And therein lies another quandary- who is this guy? 

Did this so-called Dream Team ever look into his background or connections? I don't know anything about this guy so it's pure speculation on my part but video production- a gig that gives you a great deal of access into people's lives, their businesses, their homes- seems like a line that certain agencies may well have an interest in. 

Now I realize this is just plain crazy talk but the whole Roswell Slides saga reminds of an old episode of The X-Files called "Gethesemene." In it, Mulder is set up to believe that an alien corpse has been found in the Yukon. The purpose of the hoax was to get Mulder to believe the body was real and to go public with the information, after which it would be exposed as a fraud, but only after Scully was dead from cancer and so on and so forth. (Mulder also discovers that he's been under close surveillance by the DoD).

Here we have a strange parallel narrative- three UFOlogists (whom the debunkers call "Mulderites") are set up to believe that they've finally found the proof they've been searching for all these years. But it all blows up in their faces and destroys their credibility. 

That the Roswell Slides debacle may be more than meets the eye may have been confirmed by an episode in which the principals were allegedly harassed by people within the intelligence community, an event that served only to strengthen the group's resolve. I'd argue that this was exactly the desired effect. From the UFO Chronicles:
Ross, a commenter at the 'UFO Conjecture(s)' blog, stated today in an email exchange with 'The UFO Trail' that his email and the accounts of some high profile UFO-researchers were hacked in relation to the alleged Roswell slides. Ross further stated that he believed "a three letter agency" was responsible. 
Ross stated that he assumed he was initially targeted due to his involvement in email exchanges about the slides.
"Based on the resources required to do what I think they were doing; intercepting our comms as opposed to just 'hacking' and just the way things transpired I'm of the opinion this was a three letter agency," he added.
The party responsible for compromising the emails was obviously interested in the slides, Ross explained, and generally caused disruption.
"My instinct was that whoever we were dealing with had a sophisticated operation behind them," Ross wrote, "and figured I may as well try communicating to see what they have to say (the hacker used various safe-mail accounts to interact with us)." 
Ross continued, "The first response I received to a communication I had initiated was a list of emails which were mostly discussions about the slides, but there was some unrelated material there (which I discarded). This was obviously the hacker wanting to let me know the extent of the surveillance. 
There was a lot of smoke and mirrors, but overall the story was that these slides were of interest to certain three letter agencies. There were offers of money, a sit down meeting with someone fully briefed in what the government really knows about UFOs, and even the opportunity to see for real what the slides supposedly depict. All these offers were related to my acting as a conduit to arrange a meeting between the people handling the slides and the party/parties doing the 'hacking'. This wasn't something I was in a position to set up not being in contact with or on good terms with the people involved."
In "Gethesemene" a DOD operative murders the team that digs out the fake alien body, a typically extreme action meant to convince Mulder that the corpse is real and that people within the government are desperately trying to cover it up. 

The hacking event served the same purpose (and also ties us back to "Gethesemene", oddly enough).

Think about it: if an intelligence agency really wanted to suppress the slides, it probably could have done so without breaking a sweat. Instead, the team's suspicions were confirmed and they now had the confirmation they needed from Uncle Sam.

Strangely enough, I agree in an oblique kind of way. That we continue to see these kinds of things - along with the anonymous hoax videos that seem to appear on a daily basis on YouTube- suggests that creating UFO disinformation is still a priority in, uh, certain communities. 

In the same way crop circles were evidence that someone was concerned enough about the "saucer nest" phenomenon to create a diversion that grew to such proportions that people would soon forget why they were created in the first place. That at least one crop circle hoaxer is a British Intelligence asset tends to validate this, in my mind at least.

You can't help but wonder if UFOlogy itself is the ultimate triumph of UFO disinformation. Certainly the kind of rancor and backbiting you see in the wake of fiascoes like the "Roswell Slides" is keeping nearly everyone who might be interested in the topic at a safe distance.  

But I would argue that UFOlogy is also its own worst enemy. Whether you regard them as real or mythic, UFOs don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of our history, our culture, our religions, our politics. UFO culture often takes you into a closed universe in which all that exists is the saucer and its aftereffects. 

UFOs themselves are kind of boring. To my way of thinking they only take off when plugged into the overall matrix of esoteric thought, parapolitics, quantum consciousness and all the rest of it. But the present generation of UFOlogists- trained to view the phenomenon in a sci-fi mindset and often blindingly conventional in their attitudes- are keeping that alchemical mix from its boiling point because they turn so many people off from the topic with their endless dysfunctions.

It's time to try something else.

UPDATE: An interesting perspective on the story from an Italian researcher here, who claims that casting doubt on the entire Roswell narrative was the purpose behind this debacle. If so, all of a sudden the "ex-MUFON directors" and debunkers who seem to be engaged in a coordinated campaign to blame all of UFOlogy for this don't seem so much like lonely voices crying in the wilderness, do they?  

NOTE: I reported on the wave of terrible alien movies and the media's ignorance of same a few years ago and now have come to believe it was part of an aversion therapy psyop- more on that later.


  1. The lengths the various 'players' seem to go to in order to undermine an already marginalized group is almost as impressive as some of the weirder accounts of the UFO phenomenon. I mean why bother? Most people I meet show very little interest in the phenomena. Are the intelligence agencies still muddying the waters for the sake of nostalgia? Perhaps the saucer is a gateway 'drug' to alternative modes of thinking that are not compatible with corporatism? Just more questions I'm afraid ...

    1. Well, you have to wonder. Scientists are putting up alien or alien world stories in the papers on an almost weekly basis these days and you have the Vatican's incongruous interest in the whole topic. Don't forget that the Jesuits and the Disclosure Movement share a very high-powered attorney- Daniel Sheehan, who was a major player in many Washington scandals. He doesn't work cheap, I'd reckon. Maybe the object is to get the riff-raff out of the game, which seems to be working.

  2. For me, everything started to click when I read that, for the most part, UFOs, crop circles, and other paranormal phenomena were not about the mechanical causes, but simply to make the contactee ask questions and wonder about the nature of reality. Now, obviously, there is direct contact going on, entities do give out information - and misinformation. However, it seems to escape most people, especially debunkers, that the answer to "how" is not the answer to "why".

    1. Well, that ties in with Vallee's theory that UFOs are intruders from another reality altogether. I believe Michio Kaku might think along those same lines as well. With most of UFOlogy it's metal saucers or bust.

    2. I think we've seen that asking questions that disturb the consensus we're told to believe in is what seems to disturb people the most, and that might be why "whomever" spreads all the disinfo about UFOs and whatnot.

      Make the whole thing look like i'ts for neckbeards, losers, and clowns, so anyone that asks other questions becomes a loser-by-association.

    3. Agreed. Perhaps moving the "revelation" to Mexico City was a smart move since it took the issue out of the media mainstream. It certainly didn't get the kind of attention the "alien autopsy" did, for example. But I don't know if I want to give these guys that kind of credit.

  3. I joke that I have the most unpopular personal theory as to what Roswell was about, ever.

    Imagine it's 1947. You've had 3 above-ground nuclear tests in the US Southwest. Not to mention two other detonations over Japan.

    At this point your scientists are starting to realize that these explosions are powerful enough to throw radioactive dust (full of all sorts of tasty post-nuclear by-products) up into the stratosphere, where it will stay for an indeterminate amount of time. Until sometime, somewhere, rainfall brings that down onto innocents downstream.

    So what do you do? You launch a huge mylar weather balloon to take atmospheric samples. And when it lands (or, rather, crashes when the balloon deflates), you send out technicians in their protective 'bunny suits' to gather the radioactive samples.

    Unfortunately, the local sheriff happens to see what you're up to. He and some of the other locals start asking questions.

    Locals: "Hey! Is that there a SPACESHIP!?"

    Scientist (in the midst of picking up radioactive bits of mylar and foam): "No, it's a balloon, we're sampling radio--"

    PR person (Interrupts) "--um, yeah, DEFINITELY not a SPACESHIP. Nope. Not a crashed UFO. Definitely not. Total denial."

    Locals (whispering): "Hmm. Must be a SPACESHIP!"

    Seriously, that's my theory. The central incident driving the N&B UFO camp really was... a "weather" balloon, with a convenient (probably self-generating) cover story available to hide the fact that citizens in the area had been inadvertently exposed to bits of fallout.

    To be clear, I do agree that UFOs are a "thing", but find the N&B theory implausible. (Put me somewhat in the Jung/Vallée camp).

  4. I don't know- variations of this theme are a pretty standard interpretation of the event in many circles, so I wouldn't feel too bad about it. You've got a lot of company. Even Keel subscribed to a version of this.

  5. The controlled release of information always feels like a psyop, at least to some degree. But combined with a magician-like sleight-of-hand, we're all focussed on THIS (is it a UFO or a hoax? Is it an alien body or a hoax?) so that we don't pay attention to THAT (classified military experiments/tech, whatever black ops shit we're up to overseesor at home, etc). Its the alien autopsy footage all over again, SOM-101,& the MJ-12 documents all over again. "No! This time its REAL! NOT!" & of course all this coupled with the debunkers efforts & the high weirdness that surrounds the whole topic quickly does turn a lot of people off. Or herds them down some disturbing paths. & maybe that's the whole point. Maybe UFOlogy is a managed paradigm now where its all about building a better mousetrap for social control. I keep thinking about "Changing Images of Man" & the whole SRI/Willis Harmon connection to UFOlogy & I can't help but feel more than a bit freaked out by the implications of what I'm thinking.

    I do however feel the phenomena of UFOs is very real & very ancient & has a lot to do with an interplay between altered states of consciousness & perception & evolution. & that there are certain interested parties who want to control that by any means necessary.Just my 2 cents. As always, stimulating ideas & conversation, Chris. Best blog out there!

    1. It can sometimes drive you nuts. Especially when you want to just write it all off and forget about it. That's when it really sneaks up bites you in the ass. I've been developing some strange ideas that are probably more paranoid than Charles Fort ever dared. It's a good thing I only take them a half- or maybe a quarter- seriously. Thanks for the kind words.

  6. As you say that, Chris, I've been reading my Fort again, and I'm wondering if the old duffer didn't have this all knocked long before I was born. XD

    1. It's amazing the difference between Fort and Forteans. The latter seem to be skeptics who dabble in the weird purely for amusement but don't believe a stitch of it.

    2. Ha! Yes, I look at a couple of Fortean sites, but the attitude seems kind of hipster, "oh I'm so ironic". I enjoy the man's writings much more. :)

      I've been going through my Hancock books as well, I've always enjoyed his style. I can see the connections like Hancock does, and he doesn't do the 'Ancient Aliens'-style "oh, my Latte is cold, could it be....aliens?"

  7. I sat out in my back garden a couple of nights ago and saw a bright white light, slightly bigger than the stars behind it. It seemed to dance around the plough constellation, moving really quickly and then hovering at times. I've often seen things in the sky that I can't quite explain. I wonder if fracking ley lines and/or fault lines has anything to do with the increase in sightings and displays. I've noticed regular promised of disclosure that never seem to amount to anything for some reason...


    1. It's almost impossible to say anymore, Cindy, there's so much activity in the skies. Which is why my attitude is that UFOs are essentially meaningless until they reverberate in other ways, particularly symbolically.

  8. "The above mentioned Adam Dew was the instigator behind all of this, and it was he whose friend's sister had found the box of slides."

    If we change that slightly we get, "I knew a guy whose friend's sister..." which sounds like the start to half the urban legend stories out there. Third-hand info = disinformation, or a hackneyed prank. Either way, someone is laughing.

  9. "This is a test. (Name of Host Station) is conducting a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test."

  10. Hey Chris,

    You know, for me all this stuff just highlights the brutal elegance and utility of a Gnostic perspective. I mean, putting aside the metaphysical stuff for a moment it really works as a sociopolitical metaphor. Or maybe metaphor is the wrong term. Terrifyingly accurate description? The world has never felt more archonic to me. Especially since we seem to be living in some kind of surface - obsessed sugar - coma, numb to the most obvious machinations of the powerful. All the targeting of certain ancient religious sects in the middle east almost makes me wonder if Gnostic thought and it's associations are being targeted in some way.

    All this ufology stuff sounds like a psy-op indeed, but it doesn't feel a million miles away from the geopolitical engineering we're seeing elsewhere. If Archons exist you can bet they're expert manipulators. What I'm trying to get at is this all has the psychic scent of a mind-war. The control of context and subtext in order to advance general discourse in favour of elite agendas. It's nuance and non - official interpretation that seems to be being targeted on several fronts; in ufology as well as politics. To my mind the psychospiritual is everything. Reduce that to nuts and bolts, or Us vs Them, or whatever, and suddenly your enemy (that's us) is doing must of the grunt work for you. This bland milquetoast bullshit feels just like some archonic agenda, right? It's horrifying because it's so intimate and sinister and seemingly successful. To reduce an ancient mystical-literal phenomenon to some jive about lo-rez or hi-rez slides just feels like such a joke. But like all of this cap it's a joke that kills.

    Just my angry rambling thoughts. Excellent post, Chris. And nice insight about TXF Gethsemane. The N&B crowd, the BADs - I guess they all Want to Believe. But what they want to believe in is something simple, clean and explicable. But as Mulder comes to understand, the real truth is complex, messy and oblique as fuck. There's power and efficacy in this understanding, as well as a mind-reeling quality, but it's frightening for the mainstream because it places them a little too close to the action. They'd rather have the neutered and abridged version.


    1. I was watching Hangar 1 -as much as I could stomach- and felt this whole 50s kind of War of the Worlds mindset constantly peeping through. YOu certainly saw that in that hysterical Unsealed: Alien Files. The Archonic worldview seems more and more widespread these days, look no further than these endless wars, which I'm afraid are just beginning. But if not for those wars I may not have studied the Mandaean texts or the other Gnostic texts of Mesopotamia, and they certainly cast all of this in an entirely new light. I think the whole ETH idea is a psyop of a sort. I think it's a shield. The whole debate over this issue is a diversion.

  11. Raj's comment above hit so many points I was thinking about in relation to this.Esp. how it feels like a "mind war" & that certain modes of perception are being targeted. In Nick Redfern's "Contactees", Redfern quotes Colin Bennett as saying,

    "Deception & all its ramifications is the key to this whole business. This does not burst the bubble of the mystery, however; for manipulative levels of faction may well be our first clue as to how a possible alien mind might work. If the levels of deception of all kinds in human culture are anything to go by, then the range of such within an alien culture must be both multiple and profound."

    & later quotes Greg Bishop,

    "It involves something outside of the power structure; & the people inside the power structure probably don't like that, which is probably one of the main reasons why there has been military interest in UFOs. Whatever it is--real aliens, something like Persinger's theories, DMT, or something from somewhere else entirely--it was screaming to the Contactees, & its still screaming to us saying: "Pay attention here.' Maybe that's what important, & what the Contactees & the Space-Brothers, or whatever they were, were trying to tell us: pay attention, listen, learn & evolve."

    It does seem like certain mind-sets are being encouraged now at an ever greater pace at the expense of others. A narrowing or limiting of what is acceptable research, inquiry & expression. I feel sorry for the current generation of children who always have to have a screen in front of them at all times. There is a war being waged on the imagination. I see its effects on the kids & the young hipster types & its sad. Everything gets reduced to a cliche or an advertising gimmick. We need to be awake now more than ever, the world is heading towards some dark times.

    1. Organic types might be more in tune with nature than humans or possibly be of ancestral nature. They seem peaceful. I wouldn't want to visit earth only to be attacked because someone mistook me for a spy craft or drone and if I did I doubt there would be much left to see.

    2. Makes you wonder what they were aiming all those nukes at back in the late 50s? Would they really rishk damaging the "dome" as the FEs claim or was the target something more elusive?

    3. Re: Anony's comment- There is so much deception at so many levels it's almost entirely impossible to sort through. Which is just the point. Until you see something for yourself and then the scales of deception just fall away. It just makes me laugh how many people in fringeworld think it's cool to go along with the mainstream's worldview.

  12. This all ties right into a post I've been working on, Raj. I'm on a deadline right now but suffice it to say you read my mind...

  13. Post your red candle music, but careful what you conjure. :) :) :)

    1. "Red candle music?" I didn't realize that was a genre!

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  15. As Human Beings, beyond our individualistic and soul bearing earthly ways, be it in shadows and in light, - we are something really cool. - So I have the opinion to say, beyond the ufo t.v. shows, intentional or unintentional displays of alien bodies and fake autopsies to derive money, or for Archonic blood sucking, we have to look beyond all of this and understand that we are at the forefront of a "true" breakthrough. Meek, yet ready to move forward for new generations. Hold your ground, be unwavering to the breakaway society that has reached Earth's Moon and the planet Mars (and who knows what else). Some are adventurers and some are tied into separation from their earth brothers and sisters by way of cult ideology. I feel the ethers are exhausted, but still firing with inspiration for all. Quality is a virtue. I see a great contingent of earth humans that will carry on. - Damn, I did not know this post would bring about this preaching. Cheers to you Christopher for creating The Secret Sun. Right on.

    1. Hey, if you can't preach here, where can you preach? A tonic for the troops, I say.

    2. Thank you. Those thoughts have been simmering and brewing for awhile now. It's nice to have an outlet. Keep up the great work. I know it takes a lot of energy, so kudos for sticking with it. It's nice to see everyone's comments and ideas on all these subjects. There is some great insight to be gained and discussed. Now, "Once more unto the breach"

  16. I think there's merit in debunking. Of course the debunkers really really want there to actually be UFOs raining from the sky. I desperately want the truth of reality to be that I don't die permanently when this body dies, but in both cases, because I want it so bad, I hold its feet closer to the fire. I hold it to a higher standard than gravity and traditional science because its truth is that important.

    But otherwise: yes, current UFOlogy is terrible. I just watched a video of a guy showing that there are "UFO clusters" living near Pluto, and the route this person took to get there is so dubious every step of the way, starting with the fact that these images come from NASA. What's some UFOlogy or UFOlogists that you think are more credible? Every time I think about seriously dipping my toe in that water, I'm beset on all sides by terribly photoshopped self published books, lazy biblical exegesis, and sloppy assumptions taken as fact.

    1. Current UFOlogy is a circus and the debunkers are the clowns. I recently saw one self-righteous UFOlogist who runs around screaming how horrible UFOlogy is and casting aspersions left and right, but that doesn't stop him from appearing on Hangar 1 and Ancient Aliens, the two shows most people seem to think are the worst offenders when it comes to credibility in UFOlogy. So WTF?

    2. I think the problem is with the attitude of "debunking", ie "I'm going to prove you wrong." I used to belong to a group, where I would argue that we should be rigorous and exacting when we look at the data, as in, be open minded, don't belittle people, but don't let your brain fall out.

      I'm saying I guess, is don't be nasty about it, and don't live in fear about Nibiru and such, just research, learn, and trust your instinct for detecting Bullshit, scams, and cults.

    3. I was reading the introduction to David Clarke's new book on Monday and actually laughing out loud, since it so transparently fit the description of a debunker I wrote in this piece to an absolute T. The guy spends his life believing in Pleiadian beamships and then becomes a cliche when he isn't zapped away to the Zemulon nebula. The funny thing is that I get the feeling that even his fellow shills are slightly embarrassed for his book.

    4. I haven't read David Clarke's books, but he "smells" like a shill or scammer, just from the things I've seen online.

      I dunno, my old friends that were paranormal believers didn't like it when I said we should be rigorous, and my new friends that are Atheist & Skeptical don't approve of my interest in UFOs and High Weirdness. I guess the commonality is that I'm questioning "the Truth".

  17. I guess it was only a matter of time before ley lines/ Earth's energies and 'dream state' was exploited along with just about everything else on the planet. Shame though.

    1. If you can make a buck off something it will get ruined. That's a law of nature.

  18. I hit the "My Secret History" link and it went nowhere. Is there a problem with the link?

    1. Yes- I have a lot of new information that needs to be worked into that piece, but I'm also waiting on some other data that seems to be taking its own sweet time getting here. That piece will go back up when it's ready. Stay tuned.

  19. Recently I've been reading a book that when I got to this part, I wondered whether he was talking about Greys. The link is at the bottom of the excerpt:

    Page 100 of "Zhuan Falun, Turning The Law Wheel" by Li Hongzhi.
    "Buddhism talks about Transmigration, and by doing so they’ve revealed something called the asura realm, which actually refers to living things in different dimensions, but those things don’t have human nature. In the eyes of Great Enlightened Beings they’re
    extremely low-level and really weak, but to ordinary people they’re terrifying. They have some energy, and they think ordinary people are beasts, so they like to feed on people.
    And in recent years they’ve jumped at the chance to teach some practices. What a despicable creature! Look at its face—could you call that human?! It’s really frightening. When you learn their things you have to go join them and become one of them. Some people have bad thoughts when they’re doing qigong exercises, and when those thoughts are in line with their thinking, they’ll come teach them. But, “One good can overcome a hundred evils.” If you don’t ask for it, nobody will dare to touch you. But, if you have evil thoughts and go after bad things, they’ll come to help you, and then your cultivation will go down a demonic path. That’s the problem that comes up."

    So, what do you think? Did the U.S. shadow government with their evil thinking ask for the Greys to help them? And now the creatures from that dimension are dining on the populace of low-minded beings?

    1. I think it's more likely greys would be hunted and looking for help in escaping that (if they exist) I've not spent much time reading about them and the U.K. seems to be uninhabited, or kept very secret. That's an interesting concept though, mind boggling stuff.

  20. Chris, as I see it, the hacker issue is nothing to do with the government, or any agency of it. I have written quite extensively on the hacking aspect of the Roswell Slides fiasco, and here's what I know for sure:

    The hacker used the name of "A Glass Darkly" and had a safemail account.

    He accessed the emails of me, Rich Reynolds, and Tony Bragalia. There may have been more.

    Bragalia put an official complaint in with the FBI, as not only did the guy hack Bragalia, he skimmed money from Bragalia online. I am not sure what the status is on the investigation, but I want this person's balls nailed to the wall. And hopefully they will be.

    So, I think the idea that the govt would access someone's email to steal money, seems unlikely to me. Plus, Bragalia contacted safemail and when the situation was explained to them, they shut down the email address of "A Glass Darkly."

    To me, it's absurd to think the govt would even need to create a safemail account to access the emails of various UFO researchers. And then to have their account shut down at the request of a UFO researcher!

    There are far easier ways for officialdom to access our email accounts than creating an alias, and a safemail account.

    Personally, I think it was someone in Ufology who thought that me, or Rich Reynolds, or Tony Bragalia (or all 3 of us) had the images on our laptops and they tried to get the pictures. Ironically, none of us had the pictures. So, I think it was someone in Ufology who crossed the line - and I hope that with the FBI thing it will come back to haunt them forever.

  21. I'll tell you what, Nick- I think you should do a little research into the "freelance hacker" racket before you go a-gunnin' for varmints at your next MUFON lecture or Hangar 1 appearance. Many mysteries may be revealed...

  22. Chris, yep, the freelance hacker thing is not out of the question. But, if that's what it was, "they" chose someone whose email address was quickly picked up on, and someone who is now the subject of an FBI investigation for stealing from Bragalia. Those issues (and others) suggest if it was a freelance hacker, whoever hired him should be kicked out of their job for incompetence and background check failure!

  23. "I married Isis on the Fifth day of May
    But I could not hold on to her at all.."

  24. The best article I've read on the contemporary Ufology scene, many thanks for writing it Chris!

    Incidentally, you might want to consider why NICAP was founded by inventor Thomas Townsend Brown (yes, the antigrav guy) back in 1956, Major Donald Keyhoe and US Navy missile expert Delmer Fahrney.

    The Townsend Brown story is convoluted to say the least and obscured by recent tussles over his legacy and the biography "Defying Gravity". Nothing is straightforward where he is concerned. However Townsend Brown never seemed to lack influential friends in the US military and it seems likely that NICAP fits into the MUFON pattern of a trawling agency that was intended to hoover up UFO reports.

    To me that suggests the military didn't necessarily know what this phenomenon was and were using civilian fronts to collect data, before publicly embarking on the ridicule campaign of later years. Some declassified docs from the 40s and 50s suggest a degree of argument amongst the brass about how to handle the topic.

    Though I agree that Ufology has largely closed its mind to other angles on so-called UFOs, I personally reckon there are a range of phenomena in the skies ranging from Deveraux's earthlights, through plasma sprites in the clouds and unknown lifeforms living in the sky, to the mind-bending temporal and spatial experiences that Keel and Vallee investigated. I think Keel's idea of a "superspectrum" that influences human perceptions is a good concept that also provides the gateway - in all senses! - to various non-corporeal and "praeterhuman" intelligences that are more in keeping with magical and spiritual cosmologies.

  25. Also I still wonder why 1947 was such a pivotal year for all things strange, be they UFOlogical, political, historical, scientific, etc.