Wednesday, October 15, 2025

Final Events, Revisited

When I first interviewed Nick Redfern fifteen years ago I was rather skeptical of the so-called "Collins Elite." I hadn't read much John Keel yet, so I had the same mental image of demons that a lot of people do - the grotesque chimeras of Medieval tapestries.  


It wouldn't be until I'd read Operation Trojan Horse (and similar works) that I'd see what the Collins Elite - if in fact they actually exist - were fumbling after. It reminded me in a weird way of Jacob's Ladder - Bruce Joel Rubin's script originally called for your usual Hollywood demons, which in turn are modeled after Medieval monsters. 

Adrian Lyne quite rightly pointed out that those monsters were long since rendered ridiculous and no one would take them seriously. Instead, Lyne drew on the kinds of entities that people have experienced during bad drug trips, which of course the film itself is hinged on. 

I believe these are often actual entities that exist outside of the human imagination: specifically "ultraterrestrials," who interface with humans through various means.

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So let's get into it - this interview with Nick Redfern was conducted via email in September 2010...

Nick and the late Mac Tonnies

Tell us about your book. What's the basic premise?
Basically speaking, Final Events is a study of a think-tank group comprised of personnel from within the U.S. Government, military and intelligence community that has existed in stealth for a surprisingly long time. The group believes that while the UFO issue is a very real one, they do not believe it has anything to do with literal extraterrestrials.
Rather, the group - which calls itself the Collins Elite - concludes that the "aliens" are, in reality, literal demonic entities that are trying to seduce us with a false lure of supposed alien technology, and to - quite literally - steal and farm our souls. 
The group claim to have discovered evidence that these demonic entities - that seem to utilize a weird combination of advanced technology and archaic rite and ritual - derive a form of "energy sustenance" from the human soul or life force. 
In other words, they don't want to land on the White House lawn and help us, nor do they want to destroy us. Rather, they want to maintain the herd, and upon our physical deaths, extract the human life-force as sustenance. 
The Collins Elite believes this has been going on since the dawning of civilization and that the ET motif is the latest in a long line of deceptive images they have used, and that in the past have included gods, angels, Jinns, fairies, goblins, etc etc.
Since we're talking "demons" here is it safe to assume these are Christians?
Yes, they are all Christians, or became Christians after they came to accept the theory. As for their positions, we're largely talking about people in the Intelligence community - and a lot from the DIA in particular - and also Air Force Intelligence. 
There are a few of the older, original members left, but today, they have allegedly placed their research on-hold, due to a belief that a final battle between good and evil is drawing near, and that the UFO presence will be finally be revealed for what they believe it to be.
The most ominous thing is that there appear to be some people attached to the group who believe that to save the US from what they perceive as a Satanic threat, the US should be placed under a near-martial law situation with the nation ruled by an iron-fist that adheres to Old Testament style teachings and beliefs. I expand greatly on all this in the book.
How did they think they could fight these demons?
Their belief is that deep belief in, and acceptance of, the Christian God can literally keep the demons at bay. This is why some of the group have contemplated what should be unthinkable: forcefully changing the entire U.S. mindset to that of an Old Testament nature, as part of what I personally conclude is a misguided plan on their part to try and save our souls.
Did these people have any contact with people like John Todd or did they figure this out on their own?
They appear to have come to their conclusions in a number of ways, such as personal/group research; consulting old religious texts; drawing parallels between UFO encounters and other paranormal encounters; and clandestinely interviewing UFO witnesses very occasionally.
Can you give us a couple examples of how they acted on these beliefs?
They instigated a large-scale study of Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley in the late 1940s and early 1950s, believing them as being partly responsible for the ushering in of the UFO mystery in 1947 - Parsons via his "door-opening" issues and Crowley, after he contacted the alien-like LAM. The CE also established a large-scale investigation of the alien abduction phenomenon in the early 1980s that reportedly was of great interest to the Reagan Administration.
Can you name anyone involved in the group or anyone who's been involved with them?
Yes, all the people I interviewed are named in the book and speaking on the record. However, they are not big-names or known names. Rather, they are people who spent their careers working behind the shadows in the world of Intelligence and espionage.
What put you on to this particular story?
I was put onto this story by a Nebraska-based priest named Ray Boeche, who has an interest in UFOs and who worked with MUFON. Ray told me in an extensive interview undertaken nearly 4 years ago that in 1991 he had been clandestinely approached by people in the Department of Defense who were aware of this alleged demonic deception of a UFO nature and were very concerned by its implications, and of the fact that the Government was dabbling into these areas, and perhaps even anticipating some sort of Faustian pact with them. That set me on the trail that ultimately led to the research and writing of the book.
How do we square conspiracy theories that the gov't is promoting belief in "UFO space brothers" with this group?
Bear in mind that this is simply one think-tank group in the Government that has this belief. It's entirely possible - in fact, probable - that they are other groups that have come to different conclusions about the nature of the UFO phenomenon. In other words, the CE does not secretly speak for the U.S. Government on the UFO issue. 
But it does appear to speak for certain players in the Government that may wish to do away with the Constitution and turn the U.S. into a closed-doors society, surveillance-driven, and to create a populace indoctrinated by Old Testament teachings.
Did they have any conflicts with other factions in the government?
Yes, the way it was worded to me is that there is something like a silent conflict going on in today's intelligence world - with some pushing for this Old Testament indoctrination of - and control of - the populace, with other factions wishing to bring us back from the brink and restore things to genuine freedom.
Is it safe to assume that the popularity of the "UFO/Demon" meme that we see out there is thanks to the CE?
Some of it may be, yes, via subtle pushes of data here and there. However, I think that it may be the case that many people who adhere to this view do so because they have come to their own conclusions, but without third-party influence. 
 

Now, I bring this up again since I'd posted on the very odd 1983 film Wavelength over at the Extension School. 

Why now? 

Well, because this ongoing UFO psyop in Washington got me thinking about what one of the main players in the charade either knows of the Collins Elite first-hand, or has heard about them via Nick's book:

In interviews and his book Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs, Lue Elizondo stated that some senior government officials believed that UAPs were demonic in nature.

Reasoning: According to Elizondo, these officials saw the phenomena as a threat to their belief system. While he did not agree with this assessment, he reportedly acknowledged that these individuals were sincere in their religious beliefs.

Impact on investigations: Elizondo has argued that these spiritual concerns served as a roadblock to a full, serious investigation into UAPs, leading to the opposition he faced while working on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

Supporting claims: Elizondo's account is reportedly supported by the late former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who said that some of the pushback against UAP investigations came from key intelligence officials with religious views.

Realize that Elizondo is part of an effort to create a UFO religion, so maybe the "spiritual concerns" and the "roadblock" mentioned here is the roadblock traditional religion poses to this new alien religion taking power. But I'd say that it isn't just Christians who'd have a problem with this new faith. 

In fact, it's a safe bet that all kinds of religions - not to mention most scientists and other rationalists - would as well. But Christians are the only people you're permitted to dump on without consequence, so I guess it's just a way to sound edgy and rebellious when you're actually anything but.

The best part of this UFO religion crusade is how inept and cringe it all is. I worry about a lot of things, but that clownshow taking power isn't foremost among them. 




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