My Ancient Aliens Problem


The controversial History Channel series Ancient Aliens seems to be winding down after four seasons (the fourth has been airing on H2).

It made a star out of Giorgio Tsoukalos, who made his haircut and spray tan an internet meme all its own. It gave a lot of hard-working researchers like Nick Redfern and Filip Coppens some well-deserved exposure and concentrated on the countles anomalies that skeptics wish would just go the hell away, since the laws of physics make a mockery of the Establishment's science fiction theories of how so many megalithic structures were constructed.

The show did perhaps what it needed to do in the modern media environment- establish a narrative and drive it home with constant repetition. Constant, numbing repetition. Part of this was out of necessity. Ancient Astronaut Theory was catching on in the 70s until the rise to power of the Religious Right brought it to a dead halt, at least outside the pop culture realm. In order to get the conversation going in this day and age, you have to keep it simple and lather, rinse and repeat, ad infinitum.

As I've documented here, every major sci-fi franchise is based on the theory, including this summer's entry in the Alien series, Prometheus. Alex Jones recently unleashed a rant on how Prometheus was part of some eugenics program or something, but the Dominionist puppet strings are showing more and more every time that guy opens his mouth.


The fact remains that starting with Star Trek and 2001: A Space Odyssey, AAT has been at the foundation of most of the big sci-fi franchises
that the same geeks who sneer at Ancient Aliens spend all their time obsessing over- Battlestar Galactica, Transformers, the DC and Marvel Universes, Star Wars, and on and on and on. We've been over all of that here, but the basic fact bears repeating.

Having spent most of my life in fandom I can tell you there's a major difference in the beliefs and attitudes between the producers and consumers of geek culture, just as there's a major schism in the psyches of much of fandom itself. They'll pledge allegiance to science-- despite the fact that real science (meaning the science that exclusively serves corporate and government power, not the idealized science of their imaginations) is rife with fraud and deceit, but when you present them with some of the real, physical science that Ancient Aliens has presented, their brains melt down like one of those ST:TOS androids.

But I do have a problem with Ancient Aliens myself, and it's a not-insubstantial one. It's a problem I have with AAT as it's often presented. So much of it seems determined to debunk religion that it over-simplifies the issue.

I do think that paleocontact is a probability and that what every major religious and mythological tradition is consistently (and rather lucidly) telling us is true- that we had help. We had help becoming who we are, we had help from these beings who taught us how to build things and do things and how to learn about our world.

But I don't think human beings were just mindless drones or passive observers and I don't think that's what the ancient myths were trying to tell us either. I think we were far more important than simple slaves and what's more I don't think modern homo sapiens sapiens would be the best an advanced race could do if they simply wanted to engineer a slave race.

I believe AAT explains why human beings are so poorly suited to this Biosphere, but the slave theory (nor Darwinism, in my view, since our intellects often make us poor survivors as we see with the high IQ/low birthrate conundrum) fails to explain our astonishing potential as thinking creatures.

BORN TO SERVE


I am grateful that Ancient Aliens put Zechariah Sitchin's theories on the backburner, not only because I am definitely not a Sitchinite, but because I've come to harbor nagging suspicions about the man's work. Richard C. Hoagland told me that he was summoned to Sitchin's office for what was essentially a fishing expedition, and the office in question was located in Rockefeller Center.

I think The 12th Planet was an important work, the others much less so, but I always resented how Sitchin's slave race thesis not only contradicted many of the ancient accounts but seemed to be tailor-made to fit into the right-wing paranoid mindset that latched on it.

Sitchin's work was later adopted by Tore Dahlin, a lawyer who writes under the name William Bramley for his book Gods of Eden. Dahlin's work was compelling and was instantly adopted in turn by Jim Marrs and David Icke for their conspiracy theorizing, though the late Jim Kieth believed it was essentially a Scientology tract in disguise.

But again, what it boiled down to-- and this is where Alex Jones has a point-- was a deep diminishment of human history, a total scapegoating for all of mankind's problems on absent landlords, and an inherent messianic impulse that empowers the elites by disempowering the rest of us.

Indeed, there's always been something profoundly disempowering about Sitchin's exegesis. It almost seems that the elites understood they couldn't keep AAT under wraps forever but they could poison the well and turn it all to their advantage, using the conspiracy underground as their unwitting dupes. Almost.

And I'll say the same about both Sitchin and Ancient Aliens-- I don't think you can just pull out an ancient myth or religious text, plug in aliens and be done with it. I think many of these stories are all compilations of a sort, and my intepretation of mythology (and the Sumerian texts in particular) is that stories of human kings and queens were jumbled in with paleocontact accounts, animist beliefs that arose when the Anunaki departed and popular fables and so on.

For me the fun of it is trying to figure out which is which, and what part of the story contains the out-of-place references to DNA splicing or what have you.

MEMENTO DEO


It's also my personal belief that many- not all- of the famous landmarks discussed in the AAT canon were built not as spaceports or whatever but as mementos of ancient contact, and were often built on sacred places or power spots intentionally.
This would explain the alignments encoded into these structures and all of the rest of it as well.

It goes like this: the ancient spacegods had a longer view of time, knew they would leave one day --and understanding the incredibly violent world that we live on-- knew that there would be rises and falls of human understanding. They knew that once humankind reached a level of scientific understanding (which we have) and wisdom (which we definitely have not) that we'd decipher and understand the messages encoded in these structures.

This is a process we're undergoing now. Ancient Aliens is just a step in that process, but we have a long way to go. But I hope we can get back to the more empowering and mysterious approach that we saw in the several films that people like Rod Serling and William Shatner were involved with in the 70s and not the Sitchinite thesis or the "everything automatically means aliens" thesis of Ancient Aliens, either.

I know all the usual logical fallacies trotted out by heart, but you can't say that humans built all of that stuff with rope and logs on one hand and then claim that what they very clearly and plainly presented as history was all some childish delusion on the other.

Just like you can't claim Egyptians could build giant, mind-bogglingly complex pyramids without heavy equipment and then wave away Ancient Egyptian culture's universal obsession with magic (or claim they couldn't master a simple technology such as an electric light fixture).

I never thought AAT was demeaning to human beings and I don't think we were created to be a passive slave race either.
I do think that we have lost something important and vital-- a basic self-knowledge we can't truly prosper without-- in the sands of time. I think our history is more complex than the Heiserites, Sitchinites or Ivory Tower types would dare have us believe.

I think it ultimately speaks to a potential that the people pulling their puppet strings would very much prefer we never realize. And that's the real threat posed by Ancient Astronaut Theory.

30 comments:

  1. Amen Brother. My thoughts on this subject are very similar. It always seemed to me as though Sitchin wanted you to worship these Annunaki as god. He expected you to forget that these ancient accounts like the Bible or Sumerian texts seemed to be written from the point of view of the alien slave masters and were propaganda for their viewpoint. David Icke and many others do this as well. Icke and others pose as anti-religious but then get you to believe that the Nephilim are bad (therefore they are the secret masters of the establishment) because the bible says so. Maybe it was the Nephilim that rebelled and Jehovah/Yahweh is evil. That last line won't piss anyone off.

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  3. Hi :) I've been reading your posts for a while-- truly brilliant and insightful!
    I always thought that Sitchin theories were childish, overly simplistic and well... fishy. No surprise about the Rockefeller (and Masonic) connection.
    In understanding our past it's very important to consider the notion of the 4 yuga (and its equivalent in Greek mythology: first a golden age and then gradual decline). Of course now we are in the era of utmost decline (kali yuga); someday there will be a new Golden Age and the cycle will start all over again.
    It's more likely that those "ancient aliens" are simply our distant relatives. It is only a theory, but I think that humans are to be found on several planets similar to Earth. But since we're in kali yuga, any contact between us and any of them is very limited... understandably so.
    When this Earth went through cataclysmic changes, anyone who had the chance to leave(via spacecrafts et al) just left. Those few that remained on Earth were thrown into the stone age for centuries. Later they were helped by a handful of "returnees" (who were received as gods... and whose offspring eventually turned into tyrants).
    The lost white brother that the native Americans were waiting for; the red-haired woman found in Japan on a water-UFO in 1803 (utsurobune); the Missouri sighting in 1897 in which the "alien" was described as "a super-Grecian Adonis"... and of course the stories about vimanas, Atlantis, etc-- I consider all these as evidence.
    For all I know, there might also be the little grey guys and the giant humanoid-locusts. But it seems to me that the élite has been working hard to make us think that a) "aliens" are not human-like b) "aliens" are always scary and evil.
    And indeed, the disempowering agenda is very real. Frightening how many people buy Sitchin's little story-- almost as if they already think of themselves as little slaves, purposely created to serve the élite. Thanks, but no thanks, LOL.

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  4. The call out to Giorgio Tsoukalos caused me to go google his name, which lead me to this link that is wonderfully hilarious.

    He really does look like a comic book character that stepped off the page into a flesh and blood body!

    As to Sitchin: I want to go where the evidence points and not necessarily where emotions want to pull.

    So in my Heiser vs. Sitchin article I saw circumstantial evidence in the historical tail of literature that reinforced the basic outlines of his thesis. That is what it is. So is this:

    The Great Platform at Baalbeck in Lebanon

    I don't think human ancestors built this platform using 450 ton and 850 ton blocks just as a memorial marker. Such extreme engineering is done to serve a purpose - not be a standing stone or tel.

    However, in saying all that. I think you're fundamentally right. We weren't always just lowly slaves to the creators (at least not all of them). There is this intersection of the Sitchin thesis of AAT and spirituality of Gnosticism/Hermetics and flowering of human potential. I have an article I'm working on now for theuniversesolved.com that will vector in on this and that it is a theme we can identify that there are some elities that understand as well per a film that was released 30 years ago.

    But besides saying all that, there is also this nasty business of Yahwehism and a long term scheme of social engineering that is going on behind the 3 great Yahwist religions (using the definition of this category as per Joseph Farrell and Scott de Hart). You've touched on it yourself, Chris in your postings on the Millennium TV series.

    Bottom line is that even today we can't sit back and imagine that the fate of humanity is flowing forward in time independent of the realities of our past and our origins. For the bad and the good.

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  5. Hey Man,

    It's easy get our minds twisted in this age of internet where any idea gets a hype if its wrapped in juicy fictional facts. Having said that it is true there are many mind altering questions pertaining to the ancients and their accounts. The human brain is highly symbolic in its understanding of the world therefore it requires conventional symbols from the environment as language making elements to construction its thoughts. As our understanding of the world evolves our language evolves. To get my point across think of the pilgrims who didn't have any clue what was beyond the earth and to them every anything that is out of the ordinary would be viewed under the lens of angels and demons etc etc. This same thing applies to us.

    So the ancient aliens are our way of repackaging the ancient idea of describing the over human understanding of this world like weird lights to strange dreams and visions. I mean Terrance McKenna called them "mechanical elves???" he was using a modern lens.

    I watched the BBC documentary of Earth and its forces and how it changed our world. Well in one of the episodes they were talking about Carbon and fossil fuel. This is where the Eureka moment happened for me. Billions of year ago the contents started to move and some of them started to move under the ocean while collecting salt. This allowed them to slide over another continent because salt was a natural lubricator. Eureka. They showed in Persia glacial looking salts that was part of this movement of the continents. Saw immediately I googled pyramid and Salt and this is what the ancients tell us. This is what google told me:
    1.when the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside.
    2.Egyptians try to make a marvel of these things, alleging that the ramps were made of salt and natron and that, when the river was turned against them, it melted them clean away and obliterated their every trace without the use of human labor

    Now this doesn't mean that in other parts of the world they used this salt technology but its worth to apply to egypt. If you were to go to the dead sea and swim you'll be floating because it has higher concentration of salt which changes the specific gravity (density) of water..now in egypt there were many many of these lakes full of salt back in the days.

    I'm not saying I'm correct but we should credit the human brain with answers first before invoking star gods.

    As a scientist I still think they are many many beings out there and we are not alone.

    Regards
    Kuga

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  6. And then we have Jaden Smith asking questions at the White House. Happy Frigg Day.

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  7. Bang on, Chris.

    You say what needs to be said, brother. Reading this post was a joy. The truth of all this is far more wonderous, weird and complex than the elites would have us believe - because it is directly connected to the most intimate, lost aspects of our identity.

    Indeed, we are not just an engineered slave-race. It is a horrible over-simplification. As you highlight, our history is a confusion of many things, which is why imagination, rigor and discernment must go hand in hand. Poetic association draws from various sources; various threads become intertwined and fused.
    Anything less than this awareness is an over-simplification. Will comment more fully tonight.

    Peace

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  8. Speaking of Prometheus/Lucifer (I'm not Christian, I'm just pointing out the fire/light/wisdom theme), the show is produced by Prometheus Entertainment: http://www.prometheusentertainment.com/programs_ancientaliens

    I'm glad they included the myths of Native American culture because we have a lot of interesting stuff to add. For instance, the Navajo reservation I'm from (Sanders, AZ) is full of u.f.o. sightings that we are not supposed to talk about and petroglyphs on the walls of canyons and caves that depict ancient man interacting with hovering aircraft and what look like dinosaurs (or large gila monsters) and large large birds. There are fossils everywhere that you can buy pretty cheap and it all makes me think of Herodotus and his flying serpents: http://www.discoverynews.us/DISCOVERY%20MUSEUM/DinosaurWorld/IndianRockArt/Native_American_Dinosaur_Artwork_3.html

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  9. Chris: I'm glad someone else sees it besides me. It's always stuck in my craw, all the more so since I grew up with a totally different approach to the issue. Hearing Sitchin was working for the Rockefellers really opened my eyes...

    Terry: Oh, you know I totally agree with you there.

    Sayoko: Interesting how religion always has a price tag and the cost is fear. I always saw AAT as an antidote to religion, not a new religion. And I do think there's something to the whole issue of sacred spaces, vortexes and megalithic structures.

    RogerV: Heiser vs Sitchin is the classic scorpion fight in some ways. But you have to understand what Heiser is and who he works for. He's not there to argue the issues, he's there to keep the sheep in their pens. It's funny how much he looks like PZ Myers. They're two sides of the same coin after all. Their job is to enforce orthodoxy and wipe out dissent. The whole Ba'albek thing is a joke- tell the debunkers to try moving one of those things with ropes and logs and then get back to us.

    Kuga- With all due respect I've heard all the pyramid theories and none of them hold water, no pun intended. Which is why the establishment doesn't want to discuss it. And the pyramids are just the tip of the, uh, pyramid. You're talking a whole network of objects all around the world and a whole body of evidence that people throw nothing but logical fallacies and excuses at. If you're a scientist, repeat the experiments. Realize that establishment science is politics by other means, that it is rife with fraud and deceit and that the establishment simply throw out evidence they're not comfortable trying to explain according to the conventional accounts. And then make fun of Giorgio's hair.

    Donald- Which I'm sure he was coached to do...

    Raj- There seems to be such an effort to enslave our minds, no? That's what I found so depressing about the whole Sitchinite exegesis. And it doesn't make any sense, any more than mankind jumping from protohominid to modern human in the space of a few thousand years.

    Blinding- Thank you very much for this link. As you'll see in an upcoming post I have a very strong connection to the Navajo nation myself and I've always been interested in the lore from the Navajo and Hopi in particular.

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  10. Indeed, Chris. I think that peoples discomfort with open questions (in lieu of comfortable, explains-it-all answers) is a big part of the reason why it's so fruitful for the elites to use these alt/conspiracy/UFO ideas as political wrangling techniques. "Ah, finally I understand the whole truth. Finally!" But that usually comes with a whole host of mindfucks and political agendas just beneath the surface. It's not lucidity. We sometimes have to question our own most cherished beliefs, but we must especially question any kind of 'well, that explains it all' type rhetoric.
    Especially if we suspect it contains elements of truth, but truth that has been distorted to suit someones agenda. And it's usually in the service of disempowering empowering huge swathes of people.

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  11. Has anyone checked out the OPEN Seti Initiative? http://openseti.org/GnosticA.html

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  12. * usually in the service of disempowering huge swathes of people*
    Sorry for the typos. Very tired!

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  13. Hey man,

    Thanks for your reply. I'm not trying to be going against the ancient aline theory nor am i buying it in its current face value. You see, I'm from the hindu culture and we have a lot of mythologies about "devas and asuras" and beings from pleiades and stuff...but i'm also trying to be rational. I've watched the ancient aliens episodes, i've had my david icke years, my stitchin years, my david wilcock years, richard hoagland years etc etc...they are all fascinating but none of them make sense there are too many holes as you have noted in this thread. But I also think if we have the mind to build nuclear reactors, rocket engines, bioengineering, iphone etc we must have had the same mind when it came to ancient monuments.

    I mean i've heard Chris Dunn talk about his theories..I've been an avid Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval fan etc..but again i'm still not satisfied.

    People think the government is hiding...all the answers. I believe even the government have issues regarding these anomalies. I think that's the reason they are so tight lip about it since they don't know how to answer us or they don't have the answers. And I certainly don't believe they are in kahoots with the aliens.

    In fact every body who have ever taken the ancient alien, ufo or what ever out of the box issue have ended up stuck somewhere in the labyrinth of this mystery.

    In my opinion the only thing that makes sense is what was mentioned in genesis where they say "the son's of god came down and saw mankind working together as one and they said that if they don't put an end to this then nothing will be impossible to our minds". I believe the reason we are so advanced in technology in such a short time is because we as human beings came together again as one and have started to share our knowledge and genetic strengths. All the races were separated because it makes us weak as divided beings. Now we are again one, we work together, share our knowledge..etc etc May be that's why there are so many sightings because they've realized we have again united.

    Any ways man I enjoy your work.

    Regards
    Kugan

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  14. Hey again, Chris

    To explore my previous comments a little further; I think that Ancient Astronaut Theory is much closer to the Jack Kirby themes that you've highlighted with your previous posts, rather than a clinical 'it was aliens' interpretation.

    I mean to say, entheogenic themes, altered states of consciousness, shamanic experience, etc, seem to be closely intertwined with the 'truth' of ancient contact. I really do think sometimes that the human race as we understand it are Eidolons made flesh, from somewhere else - somewhere more fluid and dreamlike.


    In my own life it feels like there has been some kind of outside push for me to understand the nature of dream-logic and poetic association, and that it's somehow profoundly connected to our exogenesis.

    To digress slightly, I was very close to my grandma when I was a kid. I remember the night she died; I felt a strangeness that evening. I knew something was about to change. Her name was Emerald Sealy. And the Seelie are a class of benevolent faery. Many years after she died I realized that, phonetically speaking, my grandma was the 'Green Fairy'.

    There are many instances of weirdly resonant names in my family; Diana, David, Maya, Kristal, etc. The point that I'm trying to make is that as I got older it began to feel like this strange wordplay was making itself noticeable to stop me from accepting a 'Conventional Alternative'. As though a voice was saying, "No, it's deeper and stranger than that. Look at the names, look at the words and context."

    That's probably a big part of why I went on to be a Literature student. From early in my life I felt 'contacted', in an intimate Outer Limits kind of way; and this contact spoke to me primarily through prophetic dreams, visions and linguistic playfulness. This might sound very frothy and nebulous, but I suspect is was the collective power of all this that eventually led me to The Secret Sun. This 'contact' had some very hard edges though, believe me.

    I guess my overall point is that I think we all have a version of this mystical 'Deepening Imperative' that I've just described; this energy that teases our suspicions and inspires our weird hunches. It seems to be trying to draw us closer to something we've lost - our destinies, it seems. And it's bigger than simple 'aliens', for sure.

    Peace

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  15. "starting with Star Trek and 2001: A Space Odyssey"

    Actually the British TV serial Quatermass and the Pit was built on AAT a decade before either of those. If Hammer Films had been allowed to make their film version around the same time (like they did with the previous two Quatermass serials) rather than waiting until 1967 it would probably be more acclaimed as a pioneer in that area today.

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  16. In Genesis 6 it says the sons of the Elohim took human women as wives, had relations with them, and produced offspring. That means they were physical beings as we are and have DNA just like we do. They're not the product of altered state of consciousness or whatever.

    Archons, on the other hand, are not very physical when they manifest their presence in our reality context. You can sense the psychic field of effect they project but they barely register visibility and you could probably most definitely stick a hand right through them. No doubt there is some proper reality context of their origin in which they are rather substantive in some fashion, but when they project into our reality - not so much.

    So am suggesting Annanaki/Elohim should not be conflated with Archons. Two different things. Are they related in some manner, on some level? That I don't know. And the humanoid owl visage is yet another distinct manifestation - but it does tend to show up as a culminating appearance of encounters with Archons.

    Even if the Annunaki were (are) physical beings much like ourselves, they probably had a very adept knowledge of the other spheres of realities (they live longer lives, have been around much longer as high civilization, etc., etc.). So that would be one reason to consider any potential relationship to Archons to be an open ended matter to ponder.

    Seems to be a spectrum of things to consider - Sitchin just dealt with one group out that spectrum, and it happened to be physical beings that left their mark in multiple physical ways. Don't think one would be able to come across archeological evidence that points to ancient presence of Archons. (Yet there are ancient writings from the Gnostics that tell the same things that contemporary investigation has turned up.)

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  17. Great post, fine comments! Bravo from the balcony here!

    From some of us (way too) old hands the whole Ancient Astronaut thing was not started but jump-started by Star Trek because we put the whole credit/blame where it was due, on FORBIDDEN PLANET.

    Everybody thinks it was a gag, but I saw it when I was five years old at the old Dreamland Theatre in Lorain, Ohio (three blocks from beautiful Lake Erie). This was 1956 just before Elvis.

    Everyone forgot it, but there's a half-gainer in the plot where MGM had to explain why Anne Francis (RIP) had deer and lions in her oasis, so they told us "The ancient Krell, millions of years ago, sent survey ships to our planet before the rise of Mankind."

    Presto, Walter Pidgeon (as Doctor Morbius) gives the whole Ancient Astronaut meme out just before Ike's re-election.

    The Krell boiler room LIVES!

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  18. Chris,

    Also something to think about. You know people say we came from pleiades or sirius etc rite? Well I did some digging and found that the pleiades star system was formed 100 million years ago the time of the dinosaurs on earth. And the sirius star system was formed something like 200 - 400 million years ago.

    What amazes me is that people say we are the least evolved in the galaxy. Well to be really blunt to those folks, the earth is 4.5 billion years old and the sun is 4.57 billions old. The universe is something like 14 billion years old. Basically we are young adults when it comes to the universe.

    As for Raj..
    I also believe that consciousness is the basis of all things.

    Regards
    Kugan

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  19. Excerpt from Graham Hancock's 2007 book, Supernatural:


    That such experiences have indeed been recorded by every culture at every period of history does not - of course - prove that the experiences are real. But the remarkable mutual corroboration and cross-tallying descriptions provided by such different and completely independent witnesses as UFO abductees and shamans increases my confidence that their experiences might be real in some way that science - with its exclusive "this world" focus - has so far been unable to contemplate.

    In 1958, the great psychologist Carl Gustav Jung, as ever far ahead of his time, committed scientific heresy when he considered the possibility that "UFOs are something pschic that is equipped with certain physical properties." But he also asked, "Where would such a thing come from?" and commented that "the notion of a materialized psychism opens a bottomless void beneath our feet." Elsewhere in his treatment of UFOs, however, Jung tantalizingly suggest exactly where he thinks "materialized psychisms" might come from when he proposes that "all reality" cold be "grounded on an as-yet-unknown substrate possessing material and at the same time psychic qualities." What he has in mind here, he makes clear, are the parallel universes envisaged by quantum physics.


    Quantum Physics indicates that material substance is not really tiny little marbles of matter but an information state referred to as a wave function that collapses when observed by consciousness (a process of reality rendering into conscious awareness).

    So replace Many Worlds with Tom Campbell's BigTOE concept of a layered virtual realities information processing substrate, and Jung's substrate no longer is dualistic per se.

    Our so-called physical reality is highly constrained and seems so different to us from spirtual realities, yet ultimately the same universal substrate renders all virutal realites in all their myriad forms.

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  20. Raj- I think a lot of people are out there looking for simplicity, whereas I'm looking for complexity. I think that's a big part of it.

    WL- Thanks for the link.

    Kuga_ Again the issue isn't cleverness, it's the laws of physics. Don't listen to a scientist or an archaeologist- first of all they're all bought and paid for by the Establishment. Listen to the building engineers.

    James- Oh, I've done quite a bit on Quatermass here. Do a search. However, QATP was essentially the end of the franchise, with that '79 production tacked on as a coda. I was talking more about active and ongoing franchises.

    RogerV- The archons could also be a symbolic representation of the forces of control. The Gnostics saw everything in terms of metaphor- it's entirely likely they didn't see the archons as physical beings.

    Franz- Yeah, that's a fantastic movie- so far ahead of it's time. I wonder if the Krell became the Kree/Skrulls, since the Kree were the ancient astronauts of the Silver Age Marvel Universe.

    Kuga- Provisionally. Cosmology is the science I put the least stock in because it's all based on speculation based on observations based right here on Earth. And a 1000 year head start would be all you needed to be a god to another race. And there is a school of thought that believes that the spacegods were originally from Mars or even from Earth and left the Solar System due to the usual periodic solar violence.

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  21. Chris,
    This is my opinion, but I feel that the last two paragraphs are probably your most important statements you have written on this website/ blog.

    We are amazing creatures. I also think that those who pull the strings know the power in our genes but they also do not know how to activate it and or how to keep it from turning on everyone else at the same time. This last statement would be in reference to Rupert Sheldrake's work.

    With all these massive megalithic structures coming into light, I stop and wonder about two things, food for workers and how in heck did they even cut the stones. But let's go further on the human side of things. How tall, how strong, how many.

    Then for those blocks in Lebanon. Why 3? Why not one massive stone weighing 3600 tons. Their alignment, are they, just as a thought, tuning stones that resonant at a certain frequency?

    So much out there, and yes only structural engineers should talk about building techniques.

    Be well

    Laurence.

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  22. Nice piece with great observations. I'm of the opinion that the Ancient Aliens theory holds merit in the title and in little else. Certainly any civilizations that exist in this universe might find a place like earth interesting for any number of reasons. And much of what "Ancient Astronaut Theorists" propose is compelling, but real proof or conclusive evidence always evades us. There are all manner of holes in what we are regularly offered, but you're right... what we have is a good starting place.

    R. Emmet Lee
    http://thevicarslamp.blogspot.com/2012/05/mistakes-cryptographers-make.html

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  23. Just had a thought today after reading this;

    Time line

    May be we were the "gods", then the earth energy went to sleep and our "godly nature" went to sleep as well. Now we just woke up and trying to figure what happened.

    When I mean sleep I mean a long time sleep like thousands of millenniums.

    It can mean that its part of the way the earth "heals its self" since we are a voracious eaters. Look what we have done to the planet since the time we woke up. lol

    Regards
    Kuga

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  24. WORD! This is how I feel about AA (to an extent). I too am a bonafide sci fi geek so I am more than aware of the origins of most of the popular sci fi universes out there. Especially Battlestar Galactica. So why I don't shun the whole idea of Ancient Aliens, I do get annoyed when the conclusions lead to an almost pathological belief that ancient humans were dumb and like to worship things that fell out of the sky. It's played out and it's unfounded. Our ancestors were smart enough to put 2 and 2 together. To call it as they saw it. "Gods"? Not sure. "Ancient Aliens"? Perhaps (the one word that should be a drinking game for this show), but "Stupid human tricks that helped to shape humanity"? Hell naw.

    Thanks,

    Tina Sena

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  25. Indeed, Tina. To all of you of you who have commented and all of you reading out there, my takeaway from AAT has always been thus: "we are the children of gods. Our potential is as yet untapped."

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  26. The case is made here that a similar conclusion/sentiment is reached by this film of 30 years ago as that of Chris's blog posting regarding AAT:

    Blade Runner - An Astro-Gnostic Fable (of the past – not the future)

    "Yet Blade Runner, via the methods of its various symbolic overlays, imparts at its conclusion that waking up to the nature of slave status is merely incidental – it is not really crucial in respect to authenticity of personhood. What is crucial is Gnostic awaking. The spirit that ascends from the physical shell into Heaven is that which is our vital selves and is what we need to awaken to."

    Chris, the Acknowledgments section credits you for the term AstroGnostic. It's useful for the community to have a working vocabulary of terms and you tend to come up with good ones.

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  27. I really hope to someday see a full volume from you on your ideas about ancient ultraterrestrial influences and their relationship to human imagination.

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  28. I think this is a delicate matter and yes we should avoid shoddy investigative work and collate all the facts. This is something Ancient Aliens fails to do, but I still believe that there is a portion of history for which we can not make any assumptions. There is ultimately some credence to the theory. It must just be looked at rationally. Check out this blog on the concept, it is a tad more open minded and constructive in allowing us to consider the possibilities.
    http://history-is-the-answer.blogspot.com/

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  29. It is said Enoch built the great pyramid to keep all of ancient books or information safe. The pyramid was built with 3 visible chambers. 1 at the bottom of a 33 degree shaft with a connecting 2 foot shaft to the grand gallery if you look at the un finished chamber it looks like they where looking for something in the middle of the chamber is a well I think they found what they were looking for I know why it was to find a crack in the sandstone bed rock why to drain water. The pyramid was to store the knowledge of ancient people for the time of the end that’s now left in a hidden chamber and I think some of children of the gods were to survive in the queen’s chamber and some were giants because of the size of the niche. The unfinished stone in front the niche had a message on it I think early roman church destroyed it. When the early explores entered great pyramid the shaft descending to the unfinished room had a lot of sand so much it was difficult to remove and nothing was found. The shaft going to the queens chamber has sand and a 2 foot step up I believe that the sand came from the kings chamber they filled the king’s chamber full of water left a man hole to the top of the kings chamber why so they would know it was full of water then they broke or remove all the plugs in the grand gallery and 1 or more stones in the kings chamber were lowered if you look at the queen’s chamber the stones are water tight but in the kings chamber there not, some experts say the some of the stones in the kings chamber are like there on ball bearings or could it be sand I think the builders the used water and sand like hydraulics to lower the whole slope and some of the stones in the king’s chamber and the small 2 foot square shaft was used to drain water and sand to the descending passage they lowered the whole gallery slope as one using water and sand the would have poured down the small shaft to the unfinished room and the water drained thought a crack in the bed rock. I believe access to the library is under the stones in the king’s chamber the library of the children of the gods. In my mind I’ve walk in the pyramid and gone over so many thing’s about it if it does have the knowledge or what happened before the flood or of the gods its going to be well protected I see a door made of metal we can’t cut or drill that there would many scrolls and books made of granite and gold in many languages and Enoch left a message for the people that would enter his library. The sloped ramp served 2 things 1 to raise the blocks for the king’s chamber and 2 to wash the sand from the king’s chamber grand gallery to the 2 foot square shaft served as a drain for sand and water that’s why in early pictures there’s sand as you get to the step up to the queen’s chamber. Today we could raise the stones in the kings chamber with hydraulic jacks there only 60 ton’s made of granite hard to cut in old times no one would think the builders would lower 60 ton block’s using sand and water but I would and did.

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  30. It is said Enoch built the great pyramid to keep all of ancient books or information safe. The pyramid was built with 3 visible chambers. 1 at the bottom of a 33 degree shaft with a connecting 2 foot shaft to the grand gallery if you look at the un finished chamber it looks like they where looking for something in the middle of the chamber is a well I think they found what they were looking for I know why it was to find a crack in the sandstone bed rock why to drain water. The pyramid was to store the knowledge of ancient people for the time of the end that’s now left in a hidden chamber and I think some of children of the gods were to survive in the queen’s chamber and some were giants because of the size of the niche. The unfinished stone in front the niche had a message on it I think early roman church destroyed it. When the early explores entered great pyramid the shaft descending to the unfinished room had a lot of sand so much it was difficult to remove and nothing was found. The shaft going to the queens chamber has sand and a 2 foot step up I believe that the sand came from the kings chamber they filled the king’s chamber full of water left a man hole to the top of the kings chamber why so they would know it was full of water then they broke or remove all the plugs in the grand gallery and 1 or more stones in the kings chamber were lowered if you look at the queen’s chamber the stones are water tight but in the kings chamber there not, some experts say the some of the stones in the kings chamber are like there on ball bearings or could it be sand I think the builders the used water and sand like hydraulics to lower the whole slope and some of the stones in the king’s chamber and the small 2 foot square shaft was used to drain water and sand to the descending passage they lowered the whole gallery slope as one using water and sand the would have poured down the small shaft to the unfinished room and the water drained thought a crack in the bed rock. I believe access to the library is under the stones in the king’s chamber the library of the children of the gods. In my mind I’ve walk in the pyramid and gone over so many thing’s about it if it does have the knowledge or what happened before the flood or of the gods its going to be well protected I see a door made of metal we can’t cut or drill that there would many scrolls and books made of granite and gold in many languages and Enoch left a message for the people that would enter his library. The sloped ramp served 2 things 1 to raise the blocks for the king’s chamber and 2 to wash the sand from the king’s chamber grand gallery to the 2 foot square shaft served as a drain for sand and water that’s why in early pictures there’s sand as you get to the step up to the queen’s chamber. Today we could raise the stones in the kings chamber with hydraulic jacks there only 60 ton’s made of granite hard to cut in old times no one would think the builders would lower 60 ton block’s using sand and water but I would and did.

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